1 00:00:38,100 --> 00:00:40,590 it had been a great flight with a great 2 00:00:40,590 --> 00:00:40,600 it had been a great flight with a great 3 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:42,570 it had been a great flight with a great entry in landing and the team was 4 00:00:42,570 --> 00:00:42,580 entry in landing and the team was 5 00:00:42,580 --> 00:00:44,310 entry in landing and the team was preparing to handover the vehicle to the 6 00:00:44,310 --> 00:00:44,320 preparing to handover the vehicle to the 7 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,220 preparing to handover the vehicle to the KSC ground folks one of last orders of 8 00:00:47,220 --> 00:00:47,230 KSC ground folks one of last orders of 9 00:00:47,230 --> 00:00:48,810 KSC ground folks one of last orders of business in this process is to 10 00:00:48,810 --> 00:00:48,820 business in this process is to 11 00:00:48,820 --> 00:00:50,700 business in this process is to transition from internal vehicle cooling 12 00:00:50,700 --> 00:00:50,710 transition from internal vehicle cooling 13 00:00:50,710 --> 00:00:53,640 transition from internal vehicle cooling to ground cooling now in orbit cooling 14 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:53,650 to ground cooling now in orbit cooling 15 00:00:53,650 --> 00:00:55,080 to ground cooling now in orbit cooling is accomplished through a combination of 16 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:55,090 is accomplished through a combination of 17 00:00:55,090 --> 00:00:56,880 is accomplished through a combination of the radiators and flash evaporator 18 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:56,890 the radiators and flash evaporator 19 00:00:56,890 --> 00:00:59,850 the radiators and flash evaporator system as shuttle equipment heats up the 20 00:00:59,850 --> 00:00:59,860 system as shuttle equipment heats up the 21 00:00:59,860 --> 00:01:01,530 system as shuttle equipment heats up the freon loops and water loops carry this 22 00:01:01,530 --> 00:01:01,540 freon loops and water loops carry this 23 00:01:01,540 --> 00:01:03,060 freon loops and water loops carry this heat to the flash evaporator and 24 00:01:03,060 --> 00:01:03,070 heat to the flash evaporator and 25 00:01:03,070 --> 00:01:06,000 heat to the flash evaporator and radiators to be dispersed into space for 26 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:06,010 radiators to be dispersed into space for 27 00:01:06,010 --> 00:01:08,100 radiators to be dispersed into space for entry the radiators are cold soaked and 28 00:01:08,100 --> 00:01:08,110 entry the radiators are cold soaked and 29 00:01:08,110 --> 00:01:10,530 entry the radiators are cold soaked and then bypassed so that that cooling can 30 00:01:10,530 --> 00:01:10,540 then bypassed so that that cooling can 31 00:01:10,540 --> 00:01:12,840 then bypassed so that that cooling can be used on the ground then post landing 32 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:12,850 be used on the ground then post landing 33 00:01:12,850 --> 00:01:15,210 be used on the ground then post landing the shuttle uses its cold soaked 34 00:01:15,210 --> 00:01:15,220 the shuttle uses its cold soaked 35 00:01:15,220 --> 00:01:17,130 the shuttle uses its cold soaked radiators for a few minutes and then as 36 00:01:17,130 --> 00:01:17,140 radiators for a few minutes and then as 37 00:01:17,140 --> 00:01:18,960 radiators for a few minutes and then as they heat up the team activates the 38 00:01:18,960 --> 00:01:18,970 they heat up the team activates the 39 00:01:18,970 --> 00:01:20,999 they heat up the team activates the ammonia system which flashes ammonia 40 00:01:20,999 --> 00:01:21,009 ammonia system which flashes ammonia 41 00:01:21,009 --> 00:01:22,850 ammonia system which flashes ammonia onto the freon loops to provide cooling 42 00:01:22,850 --> 00:01:22,860 onto the freon loops to provide cooling 43 00:01:22,860 --> 00:01:25,469 onto the freon loops to provide cooling in order to have a safe transition to 44 00:01:25,469 --> 00:01:25,479 in order to have a safe transition to 45 00:01:25,479 --> 00:01:27,359 in order to have a safe transition to ground cooling the ammonia system has to 46 00:01:27,359 --> 00:01:27,369 ground cooling the ammonia system has to 47 00:01:27,369 --> 00:01:29,310 ground cooling the ammonia system has to be deactivated and confirmed to have no 48 00:01:29,310 --> 00:01:29,320 be deactivated and confirmed to have no 49 00:01:29,320 --> 00:01:31,770 be deactivated and confirmed to have no leaks and then a go is given so the 50 00:01:31,770 --> 00:01:31,780 leaks and then a go is given so the 51 00:01:31,780 --> 00:01:33,450 leaks and then a go is given so the ground team can activate ground cooling 52 00:01:33,450 --> 00:01:33,460 ground team can activate ground cooling 53 00:01:33,460 --> 00:01:35,490 ground team can activate ground cooling at least that's the way it's supposed to 54 00:01:35,490 --> 00:01:35,500 at least that's the way it's supposed to 55 00:01:35,500 --> 00:01:38,100 at least that's the way it's supposed to go now there are some critical elements 56 00:01:38,100 --> 00:01:38,110 go now there are some critical elements 57 00:01:38,110 --> 00:01:40,650 go now there are some critical elements to consider regarding cooling obviously 58 00:01:40,650 --> 00:01:40,660 to consider regarding cooling obviously 59 00:01:40,660 --> 00:01:42,029 to consider regarding cooling obviously you have to keep cooling going so 60 00:01:42,029 --> 00:01:42,039 you have to keep cooling going so 61 00:01:42,039 --> 00:01:44,160 you have to keep cooling going so nothing overheats but at the same time 62 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:44,170 nothing overheats but at the same time 63 00:01:44,170 --> 00:01:46,109 nothing overheats but at the same time you can't get too cold or you could 64 00:01:46,109 --> 00:01:46,119 you can't get too cold or you could 65 00:01:46,119 --> 00:01:48,090 you can't get too cold or you could freeze the interchange the interchange 66 00:01:48,090 --> 00:01:48,100 freeze the interchange the interchange 67 00:01:48,100 --> 00:01:50,340 freeze the interchange the interchange er is the heat exchanger where the water 68 00:01:50,340 --> 00:01:50,350 er is the heat exchanger where the water 69 00:01:50,350 --> 00:01:52,469 er is the heat exchanger where the water loops dump the cabin heat onto the fan 70 00:01:52,469 --> 00:01:52,479 loops dump the cabin heat onto the fan 71 00:01:52,479 --> 00:01:54,930 loops dump the cabin heat onto the fan loops all the shuttle cooling loops meet 72 00:01:54,930 --> 00:01:54,940 loops all the shuttle cooling loops meet 73 00:01:54,940 --> 00:01:57,180 loops all the shuttle cooling loops meet there and since we're dealing with water 74 00:01:57,180 --> 00:01:57,190 there and since we're dealing with water 75 00:01:57,190 --> 00:01:59,010 there and since we're dealing with water we can't let it get below 32 degrees 76 00:01:59,010 --> 00:01:59,020 we can't let it get below 32 degrees 77 00:01:59,020 --> 00:02:00,809 we can't let it get below 32 degrees Fahrenheit or the water loops could 78 00:02:00,809 --> 00:02:00,819 Fahrenheit or the water loops could 79 00:02:00,819 --> 00:02:03,090 Fahrenheit or the water loops could freeze and as you know when water 80 00:02:03,090 --> 00:02:03,100 freeze and as you know when water 81 00:02:03,100 --> 00:02:05,490 freeze and as you know when water freezes it expands and cracked 82 00:02:05,490 --> 00:02:05,500 freezes it expands and cracked 83 00:02:05,500 --> 00:02:06,840 freezes it expands and cracked you've just ruptured a piece of 84 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:06,850 you've just ruptured a piece of 85 00:02:06,850 --> 00:02:08,400 you've just ruptured a piece of equipment that could cost over a million 86 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:08,410 equipment that could cost over a million 87 00:02:08,410 --> 00:02:10,740 equipment that could cost over a million dollars to replace this is a very 88 00:02:10,740 --> 00:02:10,750 dollars to replace this is a very 89 00:02:10,750 --> 00:02:12,270 dollars to replace this is a very efficient heat exchanger so this would 90 00:02:12,270 --> 00:02:12,280 efficient heat exchanger so this would 91 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,820 efficient heat exchanger so this would only take a matter of seconds on sts-27 92 00:02:14,820 --> 00:02:14,830 only take a matter of seconds on sts-27 93 00:02:14,830 --> 00:02:17,070 only take a matter of seconds on sts-27 the e-comm team was faced with just this 94 00:02:17,070 --> 00:02:17,080 the e-comm team was faced with just this 95 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:20,210 the e-comm team was faced with just this scenario 96 00:02:20,210 --> 00:02:20,220 97 00:02:20,220 --> 00:02:36,470 I was going to see the it's post-landing 98 00:02:36,470 --> 00:02:36,480 I was going to see the it's post-landing 99 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,720 I was going to see the it's post-landing and everything's going normally you're 100 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:38,730 and everything's going normally you're 101 00:02:38,730 --> 00:02:40,850 and everything's going normally you're on the ground you've made it right 102 00:02:40,850 --> 00:02:40,860 on the ground you've made it right 103 00:02:40,860 --> 00:02:43,760 on the ground you've made it right what could go wrong here the team is 104 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:43,770 what could go wrong here the team is 105 00:02:43,770 --> 00:02:45,530 what could go wrong here the team is even starting the post-landing tradition 106 00:02:45,530 --> 00:02:45,540 even starting the post-landing tradition 107 00:02:45,540 --> 00:02:47,330 even starting the post-landing tradition of hanging the plaque in which one of 108 00:02:47,330 --> 00:02:47,340 of hanging the plaque in which one of 109 00:02:47,340 --> 00:02:48,710 of hanging the plaque in which one of the flight controllers is honored with 110 00:02:48,710 --> 00:02:48,720 the flight controllers is honored with 111 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,320 the flight controllers is honored with special recognition however not 112 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:51,330 special recognition however not 113 00:02:51,330 --> 00:02:53,780 special recognition however not everything is done handover to ground 114 00:02:53,780 --> 00:02:53,790 everything is done handover to ground 115 00:02:53,790 --> 00:02:55,370 everything is done handover to ground cooling hasn't been completed and the 116 00:02:55,370 --> 00:02:55,380 cooling hasn't been completed and the 117 00:02:55,380 --> 00:02:57,500 cooling hasn't been completed and the ecomp team is watching ammonia 118 00:02:57,500 --> 00:02:57,510 ecomp team is watching ammonia 119 00:02:57,510 --> 00:02:59,570 ecomp team is watching ammonia performance as suddenly the friendly 120 00:02:59,570 --> 00:02:59,580 performance as suddenly the friendly 121 00:02:59,580 --> 00:03:04,910 performance as suddenly the friendly temperatures start diving so I want you 122 00:03:04,910 --> 00:03:04,920 temperatures start diving so I want you 123 00:03:04,920 --> 00:03:06,320 temperatures start diving so I want you to tell me first of all we got Queen 124 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:06,330 to tell me first of all we got Queen 125 00:03:06,330 --> 00:03:09,530 to tell me first of all we got Queen Caroline and Chuck dangle for sts-27 I 126 00:03:09,530 --> 00:03:09,540 Caroline and Chuck dangle for sts-27 I 127 00:03:09,540 --> 00:03:11,750 Caroline and Chuck dangle for sts-27 I want you to tell me your positions for 128 00:03:11,750 --> 00:03:11,760 want you to tell me your positions for 129 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:13,430 want you to tell me your positions for this flight and what the 130 00:03:13,430 --> 00:03:13,440 this flight and what the 131 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:15,860 this flight and what the responsibilities those positions were so 132 00:03:15,860 --> 00:03:15,870 responsibilities those positions were so 133 00:03:15,870 --> 00:03:18,050 responsibilities those positions were so start with the leader chuck of the team 134 00:03:18,050 --> 00:03:18,060 start with the leader chuck of the team 135 00:03:18,060 --> 00:03:20,180 start with the leader chuck of the team okay so it's been a while but I think it 136 00:03:20,180 --> 00:03:20,190 okay so it's been a while but I think it 137 00:03:20,190 --> 00:03:23,750 okay so it's been a while but I think it was a son entry in orbit one II come for 138 00:03:23,750 --> 00:03:23,760 was a son entry in orbit one II come for 139 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:25,250 was a son entry in orbit one II come for the flight so we were responsible for 140 00:03:25,250 --> 00:03:25,260 the flight so we were responsible for 141 00:03:25,260 --> 00:03:27,470 the flight so we were responsible for the life support thermal control and 142 00:03:27,470 --> 00:03:27,480 the life support thermal control and 143 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:29,509 the life support thermal control and also at that time the electric power 144 00:03:29,509 --> 00:03:29,519 also at that time the electric power 145 00:03:29,519 --> 00:03:32,930 also at that time the electric power systems on onboard okay I was the acid 146 00:03:32,930 --> 00:03:32,940 systems on onboard okay I was the acid 147 00:03:32,940 --> 00:03:34,640 systems on onboard okay I was the acid entry thermal specifically responsible 148 00:03:34,640 --> 00:03:34,650 entry thermal specifically responsible 149 00:03:34,650 --> 00:03:37,190 entry thermal specifically responsible for the active cooling and passive 150 00:03:37,190 --> 00:03:37,200 for the active cooling and passive 151 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:38,990 for the active cooling and passive cooling systems on the shuttle including 152 00:03:38,990 --> 00:03:39,000 cooling systems on the shuttle including 153 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:56,990 cooling systems on the shuttle including the ammonia boiler freon and warm loops 154 00:03:56,990 --> 00:03:57,000 155 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,250 okay so what were you looking at there 156 00:03:59,250 --> 00:03:59,260 okay so what were you looking at there 157 00:03:59,260 --> 00:04:02,340 okay so what were you looking at there that cued you into the fact hey I got a 158 00:04:02,340 --> 00:04:02,350 that cued you into the fact hey I got a 159 00:04:02,350 --> 00:04:03,990 that cued you into the fact hey I got a problem going on here was that that bill 160 00:04:03,990 --> 00:04:04,000 problem going on here was that that bill 161 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:05,430 problem going on here was that that bill that went off the alarm that went off 162 00:04:05,430 --> 00:04:05,440 that went off the alarm that went off 163 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:07,770 that went off the alarm that went off earlier probably actually what happened 164 00:04:07,770 --> 00:04:07,780 earlier probably actually what happened 165 00:04:07,780 --> 00:04:09,840 earlier probably actually what happened was the first thing I saw was we have an 166 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:09,850 was the first thing I saw was we have an 167 00:04:09,850 --> 00:04:12,000 was the first thing I saw was we have an indication on the ammonia system the 168 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:12,010 indication on the ammonia system the 169 00:04:12,010 --> 00:04:14,760 indication on the ammonia system the primary controller if something goes 170 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:14,770 primary controller if something goes 171 00:04:14,770 --> 00:04:16,530 primary controller if something goes along with the logic or goes under temp 172 00:04:16,530 --> 00:04:16,540 along with the logic or goes under temp 173 00:04:16,540 --> 00:04:18,420 along with the logic or goes under temp it automatically switches to the 174 00:04:18,420 --> 00:04:18,430 it automatically switches to the 175 00:04:18,430 --> 00:04:20,970 it automatically switches to the secondary controller trying to go to a 176 00:04:20,970 --> 00:04:20,980 secondary controller trying to go to a 177 00:04:20,980 --> 00:04:22,170 secondary controller trying to go to a different controller to control the 178 00:04:22,170 --> 00:04:22,180 different controller to control the 179 00:04:22,180 --> 00:04:24,510 different controller to control the system yet that was the first insight as 180 00:04:24,510 --> 00:04:24,520 system yet that was the first insight as 181 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:26,970 system yet that was the first insight as I saw is this indication that we just 182 00:04:26,970 --> 00:04:26,980 I saw is this indication that we just 183 00:04:26,980 --> 00:04:29,640 I saw is this indication that we just switched from the primary controller to 184 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:29,650 switched from the primary controller to 185 00:04:29,650 --> 00:04:31,770 switched from the primary controller to the secondary controller and generally 186 00:04:31,770 --> 00:04:31,780 the secondary controller and generally 187 00:04:31,780 --> 00:04:33,690 the secondary controller and generally means under tempo that is the only 188 00:04:33,690 --> 00:04:33,700 means under tempo that is the only 189 00:04:33,700 --> 00:04:35,490 means under tempo that is the only indication at the time was seeing a 190 00:04:35,490 --> 00:04:35,500 indication at the time was seeing a 191 00:04:35,500 --> 00:04:37,170 indication at the time was seeing a switch and having said that though it's 192 00:04:37,170 --> 00:04:37,180 switch and having said that though it's 193 00:04:37,180 --> 00:04:39,210 switch and having said that though it's upstream and we have a power T boosters 194 00:04:39,210 --> 00:04:39,220 upstream and we have a power T boosters 195 00:04:39,220 --> 00:04:41,400 upstream and we have a power T boosters so the temperatures hadn't arrived at 196 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:41,410 so the temperatures hadn't arrived at 197 00:04:41,410 --> 00:04:43,680 so the temperatures hadn't arrived at yeah how many seconds is that from 198 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:43,690 yeah how many seconds is that from 199 00:04:43,690 --> 00:04:50,820 yeah how many seconds is that from ammonia I forgot yeah it's about 45 200 00:04:50,820 --> 00:04:50,830 ammonia I forgot yeah it's about 45 201 00:04:50,830 --> 00:04:54,390 ammonia I forgot yeah it's about 45 seconds or so yeah so you guys knew 202 00:04:54,390 --> 00:04:54,400 seconds or so yeah so you guys knew 203 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,040 seconds or so yeah so you guys knew something something switched over but 204 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:56,050 something something switched over but 205 00:04:56,050 --> 00:04:57,720 something something switched over but you probably didn't have an idea at that 206 00:04:57,720 --> 00:04:57,730 you probably didn't have an idea at that 207 00:04:57,730 --> 00:04:59,970 you probably didn't have an idea at that point it was an under tamp right okay 208 00:04:59,970 --> 00:04:59,980 point it was an under tamp right okay 209 00:04:59,980 --> 00:05:03,780 point it was an under tamp right okay okay and I think he may have just called 210 00:05:03,780 --> 00:05:03,790 okay and I think he may have just called 211 00:05:03,790 --> 00:05:06,180 okay and I think he may have just called hey I think he called it under Tim 212 00:05:06,180 --> 00:05:06,190 hey I think he called it under Tim 213 00:05:06,190 --> 00:05:24,300 hey I think he called it under Tim switch over maybe okay 214 00:05:24,300 --> 00:05:24,310 215 00:05:24,310 --> 00:05:26,830 now the team has confirmed there's an 216 00:05:26,830 --> 00:05:26,840 now the team has confirmed there's an 217 00:05:26,840 --> 00:05:29,320 now the team has confirmed there's an under tint problem the cold slug has now 218 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:29,330 under tint problem the cold slug has now 219 00:05:29,330 --> 00:05:30,999 under tint problem the cold slug has now shown up on the downstream temperature 220 00:05:30,999 --> 00:05:31,009 shown up on the downstream temperature 221 00:05:31,009 --> 00:05:32,980 shown up on the downstream temperature dosers and the extra cold freon is 222 00:05:32,980 --> 00:05:32,990 dosers and the extra cold freon is 223 00:05:32,990 --> 00:05:34,629 dosers and the extra cold freon is racing towards the inner changer which 224 00:05:34,629 --> 00:05:34,639 racing towards the inner changer which 225 00:05:34,639 --> 00:05:35,800 racing towards the inner changer which could crack a face with these 226 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:35,810 could crack a face with these 227 00:05:35,810 --> 00:05:38,170 could crack a face with these temperatures how long does the team have 228 00:05:38,170 --> 00:05:38,180 temperatures how long does the team have 229 00:05:38,180 --> 00:05:40,600 temperatures how long does the team have to respond what is the correct course of 230 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:40,610 to respond what is the correct course of 231 00:05:40,610 --> 00:05:43,900 to respond what is the correct course of action to take okay so at this point you 232 00:05:43,900 --> 00:05:43,910 action to take okay so at this point you 233 00:05:43,910 --> 00:05:46,480 action to take okay so at this point you know that you've got the about too low 234 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:46,490 know that you've got the about too low 235 00:05:46,490 --> 00:05:50,559 know that you've got the about too low and what are you thinking one of my 236 00:05:50,559 --> 00:05:50,569 and what are you thinking one of my 237 00:05:50,569 --> 00:05:52,270 and what are you thinking one of my thing at the time there was a hairy edge 238 00:05:52,270 --> 00:05:52,280 thing at the time there was a hairy edge 239 00:05:52,280 --> 00:05:57,339 thing at the time there was a hairy edge where you know as the I knew that it may 240 00:05:57,339 --> 00:05:57,349 where you know as the I knew that it may 241 00:05:57,349 --> 00:05:58,749 where you know as the I knew that it may be the initiated ground : there's some 242 00:05:58,749 --> 00:05:58,759 be the initiated ground : there's some 243 00:05:58,759 --> 00:06:00,870 be the initiated ground : there's some spec leakage to the ammonia boiler that 244 00:06:00,870 --> 00:06:00,880 spec leakage to the ammonia boiler that 245 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,790 spec leakage to the ammonia boiler that it leaks ammonia so you're getting some 246 00:06:03,790 --> 00:06:03,800 it leaks ammonia so you're getting some 247 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:07,570 it leaks ammonia so you're getting some cooling from it whether it's on or when 248 00:06:07,570 --> 00:06:07,580 cooling from it whether it's on or when 249 00:06:07,580 --> 00:06:09,040 cooling from it whether it's on or when it's on no matter what if it's not 250 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:09,050 it's on no matter what if it's not 251 00:06:09,050 --> 00:06:10,779 it's on no matter what if it's not required on it so it's providing extra 252 00:06:10,779 --> 00:06:10,789 required on it so it's providing extra 253 00:06:10,789 --> 00:06:11,680 required on it so it's providing extra cooling to loop 254 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:11,690 cooling to loop 255 00:06:11,690 --> 00:06:14,980 cooling to loop initial thought was okay we're down just 256 00:06:14,980 --> 00:06:14,990 initial thought was okay we're down just 257 00:06:14,990 --> 00:06:17,800 initial thought was okay we're down just broke 32 degrees maybe they're cool and 258 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:17,810 broke 32 degrees maybe they're cool and 259 00:06:17,810 --> 00:06:21,070 broke 32 degrees maybe they're cool and they're cooling cards just to go low am 260 00:06:21,070 --> 00:06:21,080 they're cooling cards just to go low am 261 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:21,580 they're cooling cards just to go low am i right now 262 00:06:21,580 --> 00:06:21,590 i right now 263 00:06:21,590 --> 00:06:23,560 i right now ready to take this drastic action yet or 264 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:23,570 ready to take this drastic action yet or 265 00:06:23,570 --> 00:06:24,999 ready to take this drastic action yet or is this maybe we can take the ammonia 266 00:06:24,999 --> 00:06:25,009 is this maybe we can take the ammonia 267 00:06:25,009 --> 00:06:26,920 is this maybe we can take the ammonia boiler off and that would be sufficient 268 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:26,930 boiler off and that would be sufficient 269 00:06:26,930 --> 00:06:28,990 boiler off and that would be sufficient to bring it above freezing again what's 270 00:06:28,990 --> 00:06:29,000 to bring it above freezing again what's 271 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,899 to bring it above freezing again what's my initial thoughts it was not it was 272 00:06:31,899 --> 00:06:31,909 my initial thoughts it was not it was 273 00:06:31,909 --> 00:06:33,459 my initial thoughts it was not it was pretty getting pretty excited you can 274 00:06:33,459 --> 00:06:33,469 pretty getting pretty excited you can 275 00:06:33,469 --> 00:06:35,800 pretty getting pretty excited you can hear was the fact that you know we were 276 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:35,810 hear was the fact that you know we were 277 00:06:35,810 --> 00:06:38,620 hear was the fact that you know we were actually below the freezing point of the 278 00:06:38,620 --> 00:06:38,630 actually below the freezing point of the 279 00:06:38,630 --> 00:06:40,810 actually below the freezing point of the water and we needed to do something 280 00:06:40,810 --> 00:06:40,820 water and we needed to do something 281 00:06:40,820 --> 00:06:41,529 water and we needed to do something quick 282 00:06:41,529 --> 00:06:41,539 quick 283 00:06:41,539 --> 00:06:43,300 quick so that was an initial reaction let's 284 00:06:43,300 --> 00:06:43,310 so that was an initial reaction let's 285 00:06:43,310 --> 00:06:44,860 so that was an initial reaction let's get it off and see if that won't bring 286 00:06:44,860 --> 00:06:44,870 get it off and see if that won't bring 287 00:06:44,870 --> 00:06:47,020 get it off and see if that won't bring it to the trip back up above freezing so 288 00:06:47,020 --> 00:06:47,030 it to the trip back up above freezing so 289 00:06:47,030 --> 00:06:49,300 it to the trip back up above freezing so what's what is the issue here with 290 00:06:49,300 --> 00:06:49,310 what's what is the issue here with 291 00:06:49,310 --> 00:06:51,520 what's what is the issue here with getting too cold what's the what's the 292 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:51,530 getting too cold what's the what's the 293 00:06:51,530 --> 00:06:56,680 getting too cold what's the what's the problem with doing that the interchange 294 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:56,690 problem with doing that the interchange 295 00:06:56,690 --> 00:06:58,809 problem with doing that the interchange is a very efficient heat exchanger and 296 00:06:58,809 --> 00:06:58,819 is a very efficient heat exchanger and 297 00:06:58,819 --> 00:07:01,510 is a very efficient heat exchanger and it's got freon on one side and water on 298 00:07:01,510 --> 00:07:01,520 it's got freon on one side and water on 299 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,600 it's got freon on one side and water on the other and if you put in freon below 300 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:04,610 the other and if you put in freon below 301 00:07:04,610 --> 00:07:07,330 the other and if you put in freon below 32 degrees in pretty short order you're 302 00:07:07,330 --> 00:07:07,340 32 degrees in pretty short order you're 303 00:07:07,340 --> 00:07:09,879 32 degrees in pretty short order you're going to end up freezing water turn the 304 00:07:09,879 --> 00:07:09,889 going to end up freezing water turn the 305 00:07:09,889 --> 00:07:12,790 going to end up freezing water turn the water into ice it expands and volume 306 00:07:12,790 --> 00:07:12,800 water into ice it expands and volume 307 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,129 water into ice it expands and volume change in heat exchanger can break 308 00:07:15,129 --> 00:07:15,139 change in heat exchanger can break 309 00:07:15,139 --> 00:07:17,200 change in heat exchanger can break that'd be pretty expensive to try to 310 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:17,210 that'd be pretty expensive to try to 311 00:07:17,210 --> 00:07:19,779 that'd be pretty expensive to try to replace that and one of the big things 312 00:07:19,779 --> 00:07:19,789 replace that and one of the big things 313 00:07:19,789 --> 00:07:21,129 replace that and one of the big things was that we have done that before and 314 00:07:21,129 --> 00:07:21,139 was that we have done that before and 315 00:07:21,139 --> 00:07:23,649 was that we have done that before and sts-3 it was a better place the big 316 00:07:23,649 --> 00:07:23,659 sts-3 it was a better place the big 317 00:07:23,659 --> 00:07:26,800 sts-3 it was a better place the big thing is I don't think they have any 318 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:26,810 thing is I don't think they have any 319 00:07:26,810 --> 00:07:29,080 thing is I don't think they have any spares and I think the big thing is it 320 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:29,090 spares and I think the big thing is it 321 00:07:29,090 --> 00:07:31,360 spares and I think the big thing is it just bits of not only the cost which 322 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:31,370 just bits of not only the cost which 323 00:07:31,370 --> 00:07:32,950 just bits of not only the cost which they estimated 100 million dollars but 324 00:07:32,950 --> 00:07:32,960 they estimated 100 million dollars but 325 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,379 they estimated 100 million dollars but getting a new one in installing it from 326 00:07:35,379 --> 00:07:35,389 getting a new one in installing it from 327 00:07:35,389 --> 00:07:37,450 getting a new one in installing it from the downtown of the vehicle was a big 328 00:07:37,450 --> 00:07:37,460 the downtown of the vehicle was a big 329 00:07:37,460 --> 00:07:39,309 the downtown of the vehicle was a big impact impact of schedule would have 330 00:07:39,309 --> 00:07:39,319 impact impact of schedule would have 331 00:07:39,319 --> 00:07:40,899 impact impact of schedule would have been pretty enormous right I mean 332 00:07:40,899 --> 00:07:40,909 been pretty enormous right I mean 333 00:07:40,909 --> 00:07:42,700 been pretty enormous right I mean basically can't power how vehicle what 334 00:07:42,700 --> 00:07:42,710 basically can't power how vehicle what 335 00:07:42,710 --> 00:07:46,959 basically can't power how vehicle what the real move or loosen on actors so 336 00:07:46,959 --> 00:07:46,969 the real move or loosen on actors so 337 00:07:46,969 --> 00:07:50,019 the real move or loosen on actors so knowing that why didn't she just go take 338 00:07:50,019 --> 00:07:50,029 knowing that why didn't she just go take 339 00:07:50,029 --> 00:07:51,550 knowing that why didn't she just go take the drastic it what is drastic about 340 00:07:51,550 --> 00:07:51,560 the drastic it what is drastic about 341 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:53,110 the drastic it what is drastic about turning the friendly soft ones just say 342 00:07:53,110 --> 00:07:53,120 turning the friendly soft ones just say 343 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:54,399 turning the friendly soft ones just say let's go ahead and turn them off what's 344 00:07:54,399 --> 00:07:54,409 let's go ahead and turn them off what's 345 00:07:54,409 --> 00:07:56,350 let's go ahead and turn them off what's what's the issue there you know so we 346 00:07:56,350 --> 00:07:56,360 what's the issue there you know so we 347 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:57,670 what's the issue there you know so we got on one side we don't want to freeze 348 00:07:57,670 --> 00:07:57,680 got on one side we don't want to freeze 349 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:59,679 got on one side we don't want to freeze the interchange er why don't we want to 350 00:07:59,679 --> 00:07:59,689 the interchange er why don't we want to 351 00:07:59,689 --> 00:08:00,700 the interchange er why don't we want to just turn the family piece off what's 352 00:08:00,700 --> 00:08:00,710 just turn the family piece off what's 353 00:08:00,710 --> 00:08:09,129 just turn the family piece off what's the issue there well I kind of had my 354 00:08:09,129 --> 00:08:09,139 the issue there well I kind of had my 355 00:08:09,139 --> 00:08:10,920 the issue there well I kind of had my way of saying who gets below 30 degrees 356 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:10,930 way of saying who gets below 30 degrees 357 00:08:10,930 --> 00:08:13,480 way of saying who gets below 30 degrees that's what my land my saying we're not 358 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:13,490 that's what my land my saying we're not 359 00:08:13,490 --> 00:08:16,390 that's what my land my saying we're not playing anymore and he's you're gonna 360 00:08:16,390 --> 00:08:16,400 playing anymore and he's you're gonna 361 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,369 playing anymore and he's you're gonna hearing a little bit it happened quickly 362 00:08:18,369 --> 00:08:18,379 hearing a little bit it happened quickly 363 00:08:18,379 --> 00:08:20,890 hearing a little bit it happened quickly from drop down and it was very officer 364 00:08:20,890 --> 00:08:20,900 from drop down and it was very officer 365 00:08:20,900 --> 00:08:23,980 from drop down and it was very officer obvious that once it got to obstacle low 366 00:08:23,980 --> 00:08:23,990 obvious that once it got to obstacle low 367 00:08:23,990 --> 00:08:25,390 obvious that once it got to obstacle low of the deucer which was twenty four 368 00:08:25,390 --> 00:08:25,400 of the deucer which was twenty four 369 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:26,829 of the deucer which was twenty four point nine you'll hear that several 370 00:08:26,829 --> 00:08:26,839 point nine you'll hear that several 371 00:08:26,839 --> 00:08:30,939 point nine you'll hear that several times repeated very obvious what we need 372 00:08:30,939 --> 00:08:30,949 times repeated very obvious what we need 373 00:08:30,949 --> 00:08:36,670 times repeated very obvious what we need to do but it was to me was a drastic I 374 00:08:36,670 --> 00:08:36,680 to do but it was to me was a drastic I 375 00:08:36,680 --> 00:08:39,069 to do but it was to me was a drastic I mean the fact that we potentially shut 376 00:08:39,069 --> 00:08:39,079 mean the fact that we potentially shut 377 00:08:39,079 --> 00:08:51,600 mean the fact that we potentially shut it down we may not bring it back up 378 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:51,610 379 00:08:51,610 --> 00:09:50,970 that's okay so basically you're okay 380 00:09:50,970 --> 00:09:50,980 381 00:09:50,980 --> 00:09:53,259 sounds like nothing you made the call 382 00:09:53,259 --> 00:09:53,269 sounds like nothing you made the call 383 00:09:53,269 --> 00:09:55,449 sounds like nothing you made the call for the frame loops nothing happened 384 00:09:55,449 --> 00:09:55,459 for the frame loops nothing happened 385 00:09:55,459 --> 00:09:58,809 for the frame loops nothing happened right initially and and I'm still like 386 00:09:58,809 --> 00:09:58,819 right initially and and I'm still like 387 00:09:58,819 --> 00:10:01,840 right initially and and I'm still like they're you know they're actually the 388 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:01,850 they're you know they're actually the 389 00:10:01,850 --> 00:10:04,960 they're you know they're actually the trawl team was basically and like I said 390 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:04,970 trawl team was basically and like I said 391 00:10:04,970 --> 00:10:06,670 trawl team was basically and like I said the post mission mode where they're 392 00:10:06,670 --> 00:10:06,680 the post mission mode where they're 393 00:10:06,680 --> 00:10:11,889 the post mission mode where they're doing the post black hanging and stuff 394 00:10:11,889 --> 00:10:11,899 doing the post black hanging and stuff 395 00:10:11,899 --> 00:10:13,960 doing the post black hanging and stuff and I think even GC got to the point or 396 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:13,970 and I think even GC got to the point or 397 00:10:13,970 --> 00:10:16,720 and I think even GC got to the point or actually we temporarily they shut down 398 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:16,730 actually we temporarily they shut down 399 00:10:16,730 --> 00:10:18,759 actually we temporarily they shut down calm between the vehicles what I heard 400 00:10:18,759 --> 00:10:18,769 calm between the vehicles what I heard 401 00:10:18,769 --> 00:10:21,100 calm between the vehicles what I heard later for the infirm their first initial 402 00:10:21,100 --> 00:10:21,110 later for the infirm their first initial 403 00:10:21,110 --> 00:10:23,380 later for the infirm their first initial call to the vehicle to turn off both 404 00:10:23,380 --> 00:10:23,390 call to the vehicle to turn off both 405 00:10:23,390 --> 00:10:25,240 call to the vehicle to turn off both trailers and I don't think that we left 406 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:25,250 trailers and I don't think that we left 407 00:10:25,250 --> 00:10:26,500 trailers and I don't think that we left the house they're probably thinking the 408 00:10:26,500 --> 00:10:26,510 the house they're probably thinking the 409 00:10:26,510 --> 00:10:29,230 the house they're probably thinking the rule the one point one hey the crews 410 00:10:29,230 --> 00:10:29,240 rule the one point one hey the crews 411 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,809 rule the one point one hey the crews gone why should I keep calm up I mean 412 00:10:31,809 --> 00:10:31,819 gone why should I keep calm up I mean 413 00:10:31,819 --> 00:10:32,710 gone why should I keep calm up I mean we're already doing the plaque hanging 414 00:10:32,710 --> 00:10:32,720 we're already doing the plaque hanging 415 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:34,930 we're already doing the plaque hanging right let's just let's just shut this 416 00:10:34,930 --> 00:10:34,940 right let's just let's just shut this 417 00:10:34,940 --> 00:10:38,230 right let's just let's just shut this thing down so okay I don't know what I 418 00:10:38,230 --> 00:10:38,240 thing down so okay I don't know what I 419 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:39,880 thing down so okay I don't know what I don't know what all the factors were in 420 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:39,890 don't know what all the factors were in 421 00:10:39,890 --> 00:10:44,019 don't know what all the factors were in that listening to that recording which I 422 00:10:44,019 --> 00:10:44,029 that listening to that recording which I 423 00:10:44,029 --> 00:10:50,060 that listening to that recording which I don't think I've ever listened to 424 00:10:50,060 --> 00:10:50,070 425 00:10:50,070 --> 00:10:52,460 just being kind of stepping back as an 426 00:10:52,460 --> 00:10:52,470 just being kind of stepping back as an 427 00:10:52,470 --> 00:10:55,010 just being kind of stepping back as an observer to myself if I would have had 428 00:10:55,010 --> 00:10:55,020 observer to myself if I would have had 429 00:10:55,020 --> 00:10:56,870 observer to myself if I would have had the wherewithal I think it would have 430 00:10:56,870 --> 00:10:56,880 the wherewithal I think it would have 431 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,870 the wherewithal I think it would have helped to be more exact in the call 432 00:10:59,870 --> 00:10:59,880 helped to be more exact in the call 433 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:01,790 helped to be more exact in the call especially knowing that the flight crew 434 00:11:01,790 --> 00:11:01,800 especially knowing that the flight crew 435 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:03,920 especially knowing that the flight crew was not in there 436 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:03,930 was not in there 437 00:11:03,930 --> 00:11:05,780 was not in there who probably could have responded very 438 00:11:05,780 --> 00:11:05,790 who probably could have responded very 439 00:11:05,790 --> 00:11:08,500 who probably could have responded very well to be activate both freon loops 440 00:11:08,500 --> 00:11:08,510 well to be activate both freon loops 441 00:11:08,510 --> 00:11:11,060 well to be activate both freon loops were the support person in there instead 442 00:11:11,060 --> 00:11:11,070 were the support person in there instead 443 00:11:11,070 --> 00:11:14,090 were the support person in there instead a more precise call like on panel l1 444 00:11:14,090 --> 00:11:14,100 a more precise call like on panel l1 445 00:11:14,100 --> 00:11:18,290 a more precise call like on panel l1 freon pump one off loop - I think that 446 00:11:18,290 --> 00:11:18,300 freon pump one off loop - I think that 447 00:11:18,300 --> 00:11:21,410 freon pump one off loop - I think that in hindsight would have helped get that 448 00:11:21,410 --> 00:11:21,420 in hindsight would have helped get that 449 00:11:21,420 --> 00:11:26,390 in hindsight would have helped get that done much faster if I was a ASP in the 450 00:11:26,390 --> 00:11:26,400 done much faster if I was a ASP in the 451 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:28,400 done much faster if I was a ASP in the cockpit trying to interpret that call I 452 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:28,410 cockpit trying to interpret that call I 453 00:11:28,410 --> 00:11:30,560 cockpit trying to interpret that call I probably have trouble myself right here 454 00:11:30,560 --> 00:11:30,570 probably have trouble myself right here 455 00:11:30,570 --> 00:11:35,740 probably have trouble myself right here ms Wanda had seemed in a year where 456 00:11:35,740 --> 00:11:35,750 ms Wanda had seemed in a year where 457 00:11:35,750 --> 00:11:37,850 ms Wanda had seemed in a year where that's good that's a very good point 458 00:11:37,850 --> 00:11:37,860 that's good that's a very good point 459 00:11:37,860 --> 00:11:57,230 that's good that's a very good point that's a good point okay so what was 460 00:11:57,230 --> 00:11:57,240 that's a good point okay so what was 461 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:58,640 that's a good point okay so what was going on there I made the call for the 462 00:11:58,640 --> 00:11:58,650 going on there I made the call for the 463 00:11:58,650 --> 00:12:00,140 going on there I made the call for the Fran loops and now Quinn's calling again 464 00:12:00,140 --> 00:12:00,150 Fran loops and now Quinn's calling again 465 00:12:00,150 --> 00:12:02,810 Fran loops and now Quinn's calling again let's get one off yeah so I can tell you 466 00:12:02,810 --> 00:12:02,820 let's get one off yeah so I can tell you 467 00:12:02,820 --> 00:12:06,350 let's get one off yeah so I can tell you from my perspective I was trying to find 468 00:12:06,350 --> 00:12:06,360 from my perspective I was trying to find 469 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,510 from my perspective I was trying to find the procedure for a VAT Bell tell about 470 00:12:08,510 --> 00:12:08,520 the procedure for a VAT Bell tell about 471 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:10,670 the procedure for a VAT Bell tell about temple oh I think in the entry checklist 472 00:12:10,670 --> 00:12:10,680 temple oh I think in the entry checklist 473 00:12:10,680 --> 00:12:13,490 temple oh I think in the entry checklist right okay so I was thumbing through the 474 00:12:13,490 --> 00:12:13,500 right okay so I was thumbing through the 475 00:12:13,500 --> 00:12:16,460 right okay so I was thumbing through the book to fly to to try and find that 476 00:12:16,460 --> 00:12:16,470 book to fly to to try and find that 477 00:12:16,470 --> 00:12:21,770 book to fly to to try and find that procedure to save myself so I after 478 00:12:21,770 --> 00:12:21,780 procedure to save myself so I after 479 00:12:21,780 --> 00:12:24,170 procedure to save myself so I after making the call to turn both freon loops 480 00:12:24,170 --> 00:12:24,180 making the call to turn both freon loops 481 00:12:24,180 --> 00:12:27,410 making the call to turn both freon loops off I think I was under the assumption 482 00:12:27,410 --> 00:12:27,420 off I think I was under the assumption 483 00:12:27,420 --> 00:12:29,990 off I think I was under the assumption that that would happen quickly I'm going 484 00:12:29,990 --> 00:12:30,000 that that would happen quickly I'm going 485 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:31,580 that that would happen quickly I'm going to find the procedure to look for 486 00:12:31,580 --> 00:12:31,590 to find the procedure to look for 487 00:12:31,590 --> 00:12:36,230 to find the procedure to look for subsequent steps to guide us and so 488 00:12:36,230 --> 00:12:36,240 subsequent steps to guide us and so 489 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,480 subsequent steps to guide us and so Quinn called and I'm asking questions I 490 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:38,490 Quinn called and I'm asking questions I 491 00:12:38,490 --> 00:12:41,600 Quinn called and I'm asking questions I think out of that procedure and Quinn 492 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:41,610 think out of that procedure and Quinn 493 00:12:41,610 --> 00:12:46,310 think out of that procedure and Quinn says hey I just please turn off it hit 494 00:12:46,310 --> 00:12:46,320 says hey I just please turn off it hit 495 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:47,270 says hey I just please turn off it hit me at that point 496 00:12:47,270 --> 00:12:47,280 me at that point 497 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,780 me at that point oh they didn't respond to the call right 498 00:12:50,780 --> 00:12:50,790 oh they didn't respond to the call right 499 00:12:50,790 --> 00:12:52,580 oh they didn't respond to the call right and you Quinn can't see each other here 500 00:12:52,580 --> 00:12:52,590 and you Quinn can't see each other here 501 00:12:52,590 --> 00:12:54,560 and you Quinn can't see each other here right ones in one room ones in the other 502 00:12:54,560 --> 00:12:54,570 right ones in one room ones in the other 503 00:12:54,570 --> 00:12:57,680 right ones in one room ones in the other room so and sometimes there's over the 504 00:12:57,680 --> 00:12:57,690 room so and sometimes there's over the 505 00:12:57,690 --> 00:13:00,050 room so and sometimes there's over the airwave conversation that goes on and so 506 00:13:00,050 --> 00:13:00,060 airwave conversation that goes on and so 507 00:13:00,060 --> 00:13:01,550 airwave conversation that goes on and so you didn't know why they weren't turning 508 00:13:01,550 --> 00:13:01,560 you didn't know why they weren't turning 509 00:13:01,560 --> 00:13:02,040 you didn't know why they weren't turning the friendly 510 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:02,050 the friendly 511 00:13:02,050 --> 00:13:04,739 the friendly right and I'd take from the is a mid 512 00:13:04,739 --> 00:13:04,749 right and I'd take from the is a mid 513 00:13:04,749 --> 00:13:06,419 right and I'd take from the is a mid perspective one thing that really taught 514 00:13:06,419 --> 00:13:06,429 perspective one thing that really taught 515 00:13:06,429 --> 00:13:08,249 perspective one thing that really taught me it was okay I've already made the 516 00:13:08,249 --> 00:13:08,259 me it was okay I've already made the 517 00:13:08,259 --> 00:13:08,850 me it was okay I've already made the call 518 00:13:08,850 --> 00:13:08,860 call 519 00:13:08,860 --> 00:13:12,299 call I'm watching Chuck Chuck is watching 520 00:13:12,299 --> 00:13:12,309 I'm watching Chuck Chuck is watching 521 00:13:12,309 --> 00:13:14,369 I'm watching Chuck Chuck is watching this data to don't need a bother he sees 522 00:13:14,369 --> 00:13:14,379 this data to don't need a bother he sees 523 00:13:14,379 --> 00:13:17,340 this data to don't need a bother he sees what's happening I'm kind of in the 524 00:13:17,340 --> 00:13:17,350 what's happening I'm kind of in the 525 00:13:17,350 --> 00:13:23,009 what's happening I'm kind of in the background dancing panicking but I am 526 00:13:23,009 --> 00:13:23,019 background dancing panicking but I am 527 00:13:23,019 --> 00:13:25,889 background dancing panicking but I am NOT I learned after the fact that when 528 00:13:25,889 --> 00:13:25,899 NOT I learned after the fact that when 529 00:13:25,899 --> 00:13:27,900 NOT I learned after the fact that when he started talking about what I want to 530 00:13:27,900 --> 00:13:27,910 he started talking about what I want to 531 00:13:27,910 --> 00:13:31,109 he started talking about what I want to do next it was a fear through fear 532 00:13:31,109 --> 00:13:31,119 do next it was a fear through fear 533 00:13:31,119 --> 00:13:32,549 do next it was a fear through fear through mean that he doesn't realize 534 00:13:32,549 --> 00:13:32,559 through mean that he doesn't realize 535 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:33,840 through mean that he doesn't realize they're still not off yet 536 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:33,850 they're still not off yet 537 00:13:33,850 --> 00:13:37,019 they're still not off yet and then I'm questioning why didn't they 538 00:13:37,019 --> 00:13:37,029 and then I'm questioning why didn't they 539 00:13:37,029 --> 00:13:39,780 and then I'm questioning why didn't they go off why didn't they they actually do 540 00:13:39,780 --> 00:13:39,790 go off why didn't they they actually do 541 00:13:39,790 --> 00:13:43,169 go off why didn't they they actually do it so but the point in listening for 542 00:13:43,169 --> 00:13:43,179 it so but the point in listening for 543 00:13:43,179 --> 00:13:44,999 it so but the point in listening for future guys is you know don't make an 544 00:13:44,999 --> 00:13:45,009 future guys is you know don't make an 545 00:13:45,009 --> 00:13:48,210 future guys is you know don't make an assumption you're free clickers look in 546 00:13:48,210 --> 00:13:48,220 assumption you're free clickers look in 547 00:13:48,220 --> 00:13:49,739 assumption you're free clickers look in the data this is all växjö it's 548 00:13:49,739 --> 00:13:49,749 the data this is all växjö it's 549 00:13:49,749 --> 00:13:51,269 the data this is all växjö it's happening much quicker than it really is 550 00:13:51,269 --> 00:13:51,279 happening much quicker than it really is 551 00:13:51,279 --> 00:13:54,840 happening much quicker than it really is but we had I want to say correct me from 552 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:54,850 but we had I want to say correct me from 553 00:13:54,850 --> 00:13:57,269 but we had I want to say correct me from long 60 to 90 seconds somewhere before 554 00:13:57,269 --> 00:13:57,279 long 60 to 90 seconds somewhere before 555 00:13:57,279 --> 00:13:59,579 long 60 to 90 seconds somewhere before we would have damaged the interchanges 556 00:13:59,579 --> 00:13:59,589 we would have damaged the interchanges 557 00:13:59,589 --> 00:14:02,220 we would have damaged the interchanges so the 45 have about 10 or changes 558 00:14:02,220 --> 00:14:02,230 so the 45 have about 10 or changes 559 00:14:02,230 --> 00:14:05,359 so the 45 have about 10 or changes another 45 and we're ticking along it's 560 00:14:05,359 --> 00:14:05,369 another 45 and we're ticking along it's 561 00:14:05,369 --> 00:14:08,879 another 45 and we're ticking along it's 20 seconds 30 seconds and I should have 562 00:14:08,879 --> 00:14:08,889 20 seconds 30 seconds and I should have 563 00:14:08,889 --> 00:14:13,230 20 seconds 30 seconds and I should have been going hey Chuck I should have been 564 00:14:13,230 --> 00:14:13,240 been going hey Chuck I should have been 565 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,239 been going hey Chuck I should have been more proactive I made the assumption 566 00:14:15,239 --> 00:14:15,249 more proactive I made the assumption 567 00:14:15,249 --> 00:14:16,739 more proactive I made the assumption that he's looking the data he's singing 568 00:14:16,739 --> 00:14:16,749 that he's looking the data he's singing 569 00:14:16,749 --> 00:14:18,629 that he's looking the data he's singing it - he's congressman put the fear of 570 00:14:18,629 --> 00:14:18,639 it - he's congressman put the fear of 571 00:14:18,639 --> 00:14:20,789 it - he's congressman put the fear of God what do you realize he'd made a call 572 00:14:20,789 --> 00:14:20,799 God what do you realize he'd made a call 573 00:14:20,799 --> 00:14:22,410 God what do you realize he'd made a call like what we're gonna do next and I'm 574 00:14:22,410 --> 00:14:22,420 like what we're gonna do next and I'm 575 00:14:22,420 --> 00:14:24,569 like what we're gonna do next and I'm realizing he's not looking at the data 576 00:14:24,569 --> 00:14:24,579 realizing he's not looking at the data 577 00:14:24,579 --> 00:14:26,449 realizing he's not looking at the data and I'm realizing I should have been 578 00:14:26,449 --> 00:14:26,459 and I'm realizing I should have been 579 00:14:26,459 --> 00:14:28,949 and I'm realizing I should have been pushing it well I certainly should have 580 00:14:28,949 --> 00:14:28,959 pushing it well I certainly should have 581 00:14:28,959 --> 00:14:30,780 pushing it well I certainly should have been paying attention to get the primary 582 00:14:30,780 --> 00:14:30,790 been paying attention to get the primary 583 00:14:30,790 --> 00:14:33,509 been paying attention to get the primary action to ensure that it was done yeah 584 00:14:33,509 --> 00:14:33,519 action to ensure that it was done yeah 585 00:14:33,519 --> 00:14:35,039 action to ensure that it was done yeah and so that was one of the things that I 586 00:14:35,039 --> 00:14:35,049 and so that was one of the things that I 587 00:14:35,049 --> 00:14:37,799 and so that was one of the things that I wish I had done better back at the time 588 00:14:37,799 --> 00:14:37,809 wish I had done better back at the time 589 00:14:37,809 --> 00:14:39,960 wish I had done better back at the time was to be more cognizant to making sure 590 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:39,970 was to be more cognizant to making sure 591 00:14:39,970 --> 00:14:42,179 was to be more cognizant to making sure that they took the action that we asked 592 00:14:42,179 --> 00:14:42,189 that they took the action that we asked 593 00:14:42,189 --> 00:14:44,129 that they took the action that we asked I'm just taking too much it was my job 594 00:14:44,129 --> 00:14:44,139 I'm just taking too much it was my job 595 00:14:44,139 --> 00:14:46,559 I'm just taking too much it was my job to watch the systems I should keep them 596 00:14:46,559 --> 00:14:46,569 to watch the systems I should keep them 597 00:14:46,569 --> 00:14:48,230 to watch the systems I should keep them Kevin it's a team effort both ways 598 00:14:48,230 --> 00:14:48,240 Kevin it's a team effort both ways 599 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,280 Kevin it's a team effort both ways absolutely team effort all the way all 600 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:50,290 absolutely team effort all the way all 601 00:14:50,290 --> 00:14:52,289 absolutely team effort all the way all the way around good and bad we work as a 602 00:14:52,289 --> 00:14:52,299 the way around good and bad we work as a 603 00:14:52,299 --> 00:14:52,759 the way around good and bad we work as a team 604 00:14:52,759 --> 00:14:52,769 team 605 00:14:52,769 --> 00:15:09,680 team let's turn both 606 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:09,690 607 00:15:09,690 --> 00:15:11,550 sound like he's getting little stressed 608 00:15:11,550 --> 00:15:11,560 sound like he's getting little stressed 609 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:13,560 sound like he's getting little stressed out there yeah I think the seriousness 610 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:13,570 out there yeah I think the seriousness 611 00:15:13,570 --> 00:15:15,750 out there yeah I think the seriousness of it was probably starting to soak in 612 00:15:15,750 --> 00:15:15,760 of it was probably starting to soak in 613 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,030 of it was probably starting to soak in yeah you probably I'm just guessing you 614 00:15:18,030 --> 00:15:18,040 yeah you probably I'm just guessing you 615 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:19,530 yeah you probably I'm just guessing you just realized I made a call and I'm 616 00:15:19,530 --> 00:15:19,540 just realized I made a call and I'm 617 00:15:19,540 --> 00:15:20,820 just realized I made a call and I'm looking at the procedures and my call 618 00:15:20,820 --> 00:15:20,830 looking at the procedures and my call 619 00:15:20,830 --> 00:15:24,150 looking at the procedures and my call didn't go go up and number less and I 620 00:15:24,150 --> 00:15:24,160 didn't go go up and number less and I 621 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:25,890 didn't go go up and number less and I need to push this thing go harder yes 622 00:15:25,890 --> 00:15:25,900 need to push this thing go harder yes 623 00:15:25,900 --> 00:15:26,310 need to push this thing go harder yes yeah 624 00:15:26,310 --> 00:15:26,320 yeah 625 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:27,810 yeah something like that yeah still I think 626 00:15:27,810 --> 00:15:27,820 something like that yeah still I think 627 00:15:27,820 --> 00:15:30,000 something like that yeah still I think the lesson to be learned there was give 628 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:30,010 the lesson to be learned there was give 629 00:15:30,010 --> 00:15:31,860 the lesson to be learned there was give a more exact call yeah and you're more 630 00:15:31,860 --> 00:15:31,870 a more exact call yeah and you're more 631 00:15:31,870 --> 00:15:33,750 a more exact call yeah and you're more likely to get a quick response so for 632 00:15:33,750 --> 00:15:33,760 likely to get a quick response so for 633 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:35,490 likely to get a quick response so for you to call it because like you said 634 00:15:35,490 --> 00:15:35,500 you to call it because like you said 635 00:15:35,500 --> 00:15:37,170 you to call it because like you said there was no panel there it's just the 636 00:15:37,170 --> 00:15:37,180 there was no panel there it's just the 637 00:15:37,180 --> 00:15:40,200 there was no panel there it's just the pumps and if it was an ASP they might be 638 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:40,210 pumps and if it was an ASP they might be 639 00:15:40,210 --> 00:15:58,680 pumps and if it was an ASP they might be looking he's looking yeah okay the free 640 00:15:58,680 --> 00:15:58,690 looking he's looking yeah okay the free 641 00:15:58,690 --> 00:16:00,990 looking he's looking yeah okay the free loops are off the cold slug is stopped 642 00:16:00,990 --> 00:16:01,000 loops are off the cold slug is stopped 643 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:02,190 loops are off the cold slug is stopped but it's still sitting there 644 00:16:02,190 --> 00:16:02,200 but it's still sitting there 645 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:05,190 but it's still sitting there a silent menace ready to wreak havoc the 646 00:16:05,190 --> 00:16:05,200 a silent menace ready to wreak havoc the 647 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,320 a silent menace ready to wreak havoc the team knows this but how does the team 648 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:07,330 team knows this but how does the team 649 00:16:07,330 --> 00:16:09,060 team knows this but how does the team keep the interchange from cracking and 650 00:16:09,060 --> 00:16:09,070 keep the interchange from cracking and 651 00:16:09,070 --> 00:16:11,519 keep the interchange from cracking and still reestablish cooling now how much 652 00:16:11,519 --> 00:16:11,529 still reestablish cooling now how much 653 00:16:11,529 --> 00:16:14,280 still reestablish cooling now how much time do they have so you got both frame 654 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:14,290 time do they have so you got both frame 655 00:16:14,290 --> 00:16:15,540 time do they have so you got both frame loops off and you know that's a drastic 656 00:16:15,540 --> 00:16:15,550 loops off and you know that's a drastic 657 00:16:15,550 --> 00:16:18,840 loops off and you know that's a drastic action how long could the frame looks be 658 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:18,850 action how long could the frame looks be 659 00:16:18,850 --> 00:16:21,840 action how long could the frame looks be off and that you know and how do you 660 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:21,850 off and that you know and how do you 661 00:16:21,850 --> 00:16:23,310 off and that you know and how do you gauge sex it's a big deal to have in the 662 00:16:23,310 --> 00:16:23,320 gauge sex it's a big deal to have in the 663 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:25,500 gauge sex it's a big deal to have in the frame lips off did you are you starting 664 00:16:25,500 --> 00:16:25,510 frame lips off did you are you starting 665 00:16:25,510 --> 00:16:27,269 frame lips off did you are you starting another timer because you were starting 666 00:16:27,269 --> 00:16:27,279 another timer because you were starting 667 00:16:27,279 --> 00:16:29,490 another timer because you were starting your your interchange your fries timer 668 00:16:29,490 --> 00:16:29,500 your your interchange your fries timer 669 00:16:29,500 --> 00:16:31,199 your your interchange your fries timer it's like I know I got so much time 670 00:16:31,199 --> 00:16:31,209 it's like I know I got so much time 671 00:16:31,209 --> 00:16:32,850 it's like I know I got so much time before that cold slug hits now turn the 672 00:16:32,850 --> 00:16:32,860 before that cold slug hits now turn the 673 00:16:32,860 --> 00:16:35,220 before that cold slug hits now turn the feelings off you got another timer going 674 00:16:35,220 --> 00:16:35,230 feelings off you got another timer going 675 00:16:35,230 --> 00:16:39,600 feelings off you got another timer going now I didn't have a ton I didn't have a 676 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:39,610 now I didn't have a ton I didn't have a 677 00:16:39,610 --> 00:16:42,600 now I didn't have a ton I didn't have a timer guy I had the the the general 678 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:42,610 timer guy I had the the the general 679 00:16:42,610 --> 00:16:45,329 timer guy I had the the the general knowledge that things don't melt down 680 00:16:45,329 --> 00:16:45,339 knowledge that things don't melt down 681 00:16:45,339 --> 00:16:48,390 knowledge that things don't melt down instantly right to me probably the fuel 682 00:16:48,390 --> 00:16:48,400 instantly right to me probably the fuel 683 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:52,699 instantly right to me probably the fuel cells or of the biggest concern and I 684 00:16:52,699 --> 00:16:52,709 cells or of the biggest concern and I 685 00:16:52,709 --> 00:16:54,960 cells or of the biggest concern and I know that you know for fuel cells what 686 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:54,970 know that you know for fuel cells what 687 00:16:54,970 --> 00:16:56,610 know that you know for fuel cells what we could go for loss of coolant pumps 688 00:16:56,610 --> 00:16:56,620 we could go for loss of coolant pumps 689 00:16:56,620 --> 00:16:58,410 we could go for loss of coolant pumps don't feel so we could go like nine 690 00:16:58,410 --> 00:16:58,420 don't feel so we could go like nine 691 00:16:58,420 --> 00:17:01,769 don't feel so we could go like nine minutes or thereabouts so yeah I think 692 00:17:01,769 --> 00:17:01,779 minutes or thereabouts so yeah I think 693 00:17:01,779 --> 00:17:05,490 minutes or thereabouts so yeah I think you have probably at least that order of 694 00:17:05,490 --> 00:17:05,500 you have probably at least that order of 695 00:17:05,500 --> 00:17:07,439 you have probably at least that order of magnitude before something you know 696 00:17:07,439 --> 00:17:07,449 magnitude before something you know 697 00:17:07,449 --> 00:17:09,030 magnitude before something you know catastrophic 698 00:17:09,030 --> 00:17:09,040 catastrophic 699 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:13,170 catastrophic so clearly I think you have not a lot of 700 00:17:13,170 --> 00:17:13,180 so clearly I think you have not a lot of 701 00:17:13,180 --> 00:17:14,880 so clearly I think you have not a lot of time but an order of magnitude more time 702 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:14,890 time but an order of magnitude more time 703 00:17:14,890 --> 00:17:17,070 time but an order of magnitude more time to deal with them being off than to deal 704 00:17:17,070 --> 00:17:17,080 to deal with them being off than to deal 705 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,260 to deal with them being off than to deal with the cold slug coming around right 706 00:17:19,260 --> 00:17:19,270 with the cold slug coming around right 707 00:17:19,270 --> 00:17:21,510 with the cold slug coming around right okay that kind of what did you have a 708 00:17:21,510 --> 00:17:21,520 okay that kind of what did you have a 709 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,570 okay that kind of what did you have a clock going in your mind at all well the 710 00:17:24,570 --> 00:17:24,580 clock going in your mind at all well the 711 00:17:24,580 --> 00:17:27,750 clock going in your mind at all well the good thing is we had the EPS guys and 712 00:17:27,750 --> 00:17:27,760 good thing is we had the EPS guys and 713 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:28,920 good thing is we had the EPS guys and the fuel cells that I knew was the 714 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:28,930 the fuel cells that I knew was the 715 00:17:28,930 --> 00:17:31,200 the fuel cells that I knew was the shortfall we had the EPS guy washing the 716 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:31,210 shortfall we had the EPS guy washing the 717 00:17:31,210 --> 00:17:33,900 shortfall we had the EPS guy washing the fuel cells across there and he would be 718 00:17:33,900 --> 00:17:33,910 fuel cells across there and he would be 719 00:17:33,910 --> 00:17:35,640 fuel cells across there and he would be the one to make the recommendation 720 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:35,650 the one to make the recommendation 721 00:17:35,650 --> 00:17:39,180 the one to make the recommendation whether we had to terminate the merge do 722 00:17:39,180 --> 00:17:39,190 whether we had to terminate the merge do 723 00:17:39,190 --> 00:17:41,310 whether we had to terminate the merge do it and basically a power down of the 724 00:17:41,310 --> 00:17:41,320 it and basically a power down of the 725 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:45,930 it and basically a power down of the vehicle we couldn't gain it so now let 726 00:17:45,930 --> 00:17:45,940 vehicle we couldn't gain it so now let 727 00:17:45,940 --> 00:17:48,150 vehicle we couldn't gain it so now let me ask you this have you guys seemed to 728 00:17:48,150 --> 00:17:48,160 me ask you this have you guys seemed to 729 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:53,450 me ask you this have you guys seemed to this case basically prior to this no I 730 00:17:53,450 --> 00:17:53,460 this case basically prior to this no I 731 00:17:53,460 --> 00:17:57,420 this case basically prior to this no I don't remember no not really and the 732 00:17:57,420 --> 00:17:57,430 don't remember no not really and the 733 00:17:57,430 --> 00:17:58,890 don't remember no not really and the other thing even when they did start 734 00:17:58,890 --> 00:17:58,900 other thing even when they did start 735 00:17:58,900 --> 00:18:02,390 other thing even when they did start simulating this doing it a 736 00:18:02,390 --> 00:18:02,400 simulating this doing it a 737 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:06,750 simulating this doing it a simms of this later after this event for 738 00:18:06,750 --> 00:18:06,760 simms of this later after this event for 739 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:09,780 simms of this later after this event for future teams it one of the things about 740 00:18:09,780 --> 00:18:09,790 future teams it one of the things about 741 00:18:09,790 --> 00:18:12,480 future teams it one of the things about the post line was always very stressful 742 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:12,490 the post line was always very stressful 743 00:18:12,490 --> 00:18:15,780 the post line was always very stressful for me is you can't recreate in training 744 00:18:15,780 --> 00:18:15,790 for me is you can't recreate in training 745 00:18:15,790 --> 00:18:19,200 for me is you can't recreate in training the all the noises the ground convoy is 746 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:19,210 the all the noises the ground convoy is 747 00:18:19,210 --> 00:18:20,730 the all the noises the ground convoy is the confusion of the additional loops 748 00:18:20,730 --> 00:18:20,740 the confusion of the additional loops 749 00:18:20,740 --> 00:18:23,580 the confusion of the additional loops the communication that's going all loops 750 00:18:23,580 --> 00:18:23,590 the communication that's going all loops 751 00:18:23,590 --> 00:18:26,430 the communication that's going all loops your lives and listening to it was very 752 00:18:26,430 --> 00:18:26,440 your lives and listening to it was very 753 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:28,290 your lives and listening to it was very noisy it was always a very stressful 754 00:18:28,290 --> 00:18:28,300 noisy it was always a very stressful 755 00:18:28,300 --> 00:18:30,000 noisy it was always a very stressful time for me when I became an e comment 756 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:30,010 time for me when I became an e comment 757 00:18:30,010 --> 00:18:31,830 time for me when I became an e comment what asset entry was because we didn't 758 00:18:31,830 --> 00:18:31,840 what asset entry was because we didn't 759 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:34,590 what asset entry was because we didn't train it and they were just not only 760 00:18:34,590 --> 00:18:34,600 train it and they were just not only 761 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:36,570 train it and they were just not only that even even afterwards was this the 762 00:18:36,570 --> 00:18:36,580 that even even afterwards was this the 763 00:18:36,580 --> 00:18:38,520 that even even afterwards was this the chaos they everyone who's getting done 764 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:38,530 chaos they everyone who's getting done 765 00:18:38,530 --> 00:18:40,320 chaos they everyone who's getting done with her job in the control center it 766 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:40,330 with her job in the control center it 767 00:18:40,330 --> 00:18:41,940 with her job in the control center it was noisy in the control center it was 768 00:18:41,940 --> 00:18:41,950 was noisy in the control center it was 769 00:18:41,950 --> 00:18:43,980 was noisy in the control center it was noisy on the loops and he had this 770 00:18:43,980 --> 00:18:43,990 noisy on the loops and he had this 771 00:18:43,990 --> 00:18:45,930 noisy on the loops and he had this unknown factor what we don't train with 772 00:18:45,930 --> 00:18:45,940 unknown factor what we don't train with 773 00:18:45,940 --> 00:18:48,750 unknown factor what we don't train with which is the KSC guys very often that we 774 00:18:48,750 --> 00:18:48,760 which is the KSC guys very often that we 775 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,450 which is the KSC guys very often that we we did start using direct comm with the 776 00:18:51,450 --> 00:18:51,460 we did start using direct comm with the 777 00:18:51,460 --> 00:18:54,660 we did start using direct comm with the guys trying to minimize any kind of 778 00:18:54,660 --> 00:18:54,670 guys trying to minimize any kind of 779 00:18:54,670 --> 00:18:56,550 guys trying to minimize any kind of problems we can directly talk to the 780 00:18:56,550 --> 00:18:56,560 problems we can directly talk to the 781 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,640 problems we can directly talk to the guys at the convoy but no it was the 782 00:18:59,640 --> 00:18:59,650 guys at the convoy but no it was the 783 00:18:59,650 --> 00:19:01,920 guys at the convoy but no it was the training was we sat now I walked through 784 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:01,930 training was we sat now I walked through 785 00:19:01,930 --> 00:19:04,290 training was we sat now I walked through this procedure there was also a lot of 786 00:19:04,290 --> 00:19:04,300 this procedure there was also a lot of 787 00:19:04,300 --> 00:19:06,120 this procedure there was also a lot of lessons learned like I said from sts-3 788 00:19:06,120 --> 00:19:06,130 lessons learned like I said from sts-3 789 00:19:06,130 --> 00:19:08,220 lessons learned like I said from sts-3 with things that they had done after we 790 00:19:08,220 --> 00:19:08,230 with things that they had done after we 791 00:19:08,230 --> 00:19:09,480 with things that they had done after we handed over they did some additional 792 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:09,490 handed over they did some additional 793 00:19:09,490 --> 00:19:12,330 handed over they did some additional ammonia boiler tests that they under Tim 794 00:19:12,330 --> 00:19:12,340 ammonia boiler tests that they under Tim 795 00:19:12,340 --> 00:19:13,590 ammonia boiler tests that they under Tim and there were some lesson learned from 796 00:19:13,590 --> 00:19:13,600 and there were some lesson learned from 797 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:15,240 and there were some lesson learned from that and the fact that that happened 798 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:15,250 that and the fact that that happened 799 00:19:15,250 --> 00:19:17,850 that and the fact that that happened there made it very cognizant 800 00:19:17,850 --> 00:19:17,860 there made it very cognizant 801 00:19:17,860 --> 00:19:20,660 there made it very cognizant what happened once it could happen again 802 00:19:20,660 --> 00:19:20,670 what happened once it could happen again 803 00:19:20,670 --> 00:19:22,799 what happened once it could happen again yeah I think I just can't emphasize 804 00:19:22,799 --> 00:19:22,809 yeah I think I just can't emphasize 805 00:19:22,809 --> 00:19:27,630 yeah I think I just can't emphasize enough the few minutes of time that we 806 00:19:27,630 --> 00:19:27,640 enough the few minutes of time that we 807 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,289 enough the few minutes of time that we took preparing and walking through that 808 00:19:30,289 --> 00:19:30,299 took preparing and walking through that 809 00:19:30,299 --> 00:19:35,520 took preparing and walking through that was just enormous hell I think it's as 810 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:35,530 was just enormous hell I think it's as 811 00:19:35,530 --> 00:19:37,950 was just enormous hell I think it's as much better is as I could have done in 812 00:19:37,950 --> 00:19:37,960 much better is as I could have done in 813 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,260 much better is as I could have done in that situation and I and I certainly 814 00:19:40,260 --> 00:19:40,270 that situation and I and I certainly 815 00:19:40,270 --> 00:19:43,650 that situation and I and I certainly wish that I had I think I could have 816 00:19:43,650 --> 00:19:43,660 wish that I had I think I could have 817 00:19:43,660 --> 00:19:48,000 wish that I had I think I could have done a lot worse had we not done that 818 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:48,010 done a lot worse had we not done that 819 00:19:48,010 --> 00:19:49,980 done a lot worse had we not done that preparation because turning off of freon 820 00:19:49,980 --> 00:19:49,990 preparation because turning off of freon 821 00:19:49,990 --> 00:19:56,100 preparation because turning off of freon loops is a you want to do what yeah the 822 00:19:56,100 --> 00:19:56,110 loops is a you want to do what yeah the 823 00:19:56,110 --> 00:20:00,150 loops is a you want to do what yeah the fact that we had talked through it it at 824 00:20:00,150 --> 00:20:00,160 fact that we had talked through it it at 825 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,789 fact that we had talked through it it at least it resonated with me that yeah 826 00:20:02,789 --> 00:20:02,799 least it resonated with me that yeah 827 00:20:02,799 --> 00:20:05,070 least it resonated with me that yeah that's what we have to do we talked 828 00:20:05,070 --> 00:20:05,080 that's what we have to do we talked 829 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,440 that's what we have to do we talked through that we talked about the the 830 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:07,450 through that we talked about the the 831 00:20:07,450 --> 00:20:11,010 through that we talked about the the urgency of time and how that has to be 832 00:20:11,010 --> 00:20:11,020 urgency of time and how that has to be 833 00:20:11,020 --> 00:20:13,440 urgency of time and how that has to be done to preserve that heat exchangers so 834 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:13,450 done to preserve that heat exchangers so 835 00:20:13,450 --> 00:20:17,280 done to preserve that heat exchangers so that I at least never questioned that 836 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:17,290 that I at least never questioned that 837 00:20:17,290 --> 00:20:20,159 that I at least never questioned that aspect of it had we not talked through 838 00:20:20,159 --> 00:20:20,169 aspect of it had we not talked through 839 00:20:20,169 --> 00:20:24,990 aspect of it had we not talked through that case is is deeper respect as I have 840 00:20:24,990 --> 00:20:25,000 that case is is deeper respect as I have 841 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,750 that case is is deeper respect as I have for Quinn and knew that he was I had the 842 00:20:27,750 --> 00:20:27,760 for Quinn and knew that he was I had the 843 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:31,500 for Quinn and knew that he was I had the best thermal guy in in the back room I 844 00:20:31,500 --> 00:20:31,510 best thermal guy in in the back room I 845 00:20:31,510 --> 00:20:34,650 best thermal guy in in the back room I don't think I would have just said okay 846 00:20:34,650 --> 00:20:34,660 don't think I would have just said okay 847 00:20:34,660 --> 00:20:38,700 don't think I would have just said okay whatever you say I think I would have at 848 00:20:38,700 --> 00:20:38,710 whatever you say I think I would have at 849 00:20:38,710 --> 00:20:41,669 whatever you say I think I would have at least questioned some and that might 850 00:20:41,669 --> 00:20:41,679 least questioned some and that might 851 00:20:41,679 --> 00:20:43,409 least questioned some and that might have made the difference in the case so 852 00:20:43,409 --> 00:20:43,419 have made the difference in the case so 853 00:20:43,419 --> 00:20:47,340 have made the difference in the case so so that preparation we we did was just 854 00:20:47,340 --> 00:20:47,350 so that preparation we we did was just 855 00:20:47,350 --> 00:20:48,990 so that preparation we we did was just worth invaluable 856 00:20:48,990 --> 00:20:49,000 worth invaluable 857 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,510 worth invaluable now was that SOP for you like if you had 858 00:20:51,510 --> 00:20:51,520 now was that SOP for you like if you had 859 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:53,430 now was that SOP for you like if you had an event coming up that you would talk 860 00:20:53,430 --> 00:20:53,440 an event coming up that you would talk 861 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,799 an event coming up that you would talk to the backroom say this is the things 862 00:20:55,799 --> 00:20:55,809 to the backroom say this is the things 863 00:20:55,809 --> 00:20:57,030 to the backroom say this is the things that could go wrong this is what we're 864 00:20:57,030 --> 00:20:57,040 that could go wrong this is what we're 865 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,669 that could go wrong this is what we're gonna do was that just SOP or what you 866 00:20:59,669 --> 00:20:59,679 gonna do was that just SOP or what you 867 00:20:59,679 --> 00:21:01,080 gonna do was that just SOP or what you just kind of got lucky that time that 868 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:01,090 just kind of got lucky that time that 869 00:21:01,090 --> 00:21:04,890 just kind of got lucky that time that you did that you know I don't know it's 870 00:21:04,890 --> 00:21:04,900 you did that you know I don't know it's 871 00:21:04,900 --> 00:21:07,380 you did that you know I don't know it's probably SOP when you feel like you 872 00:21:07,380 --> 00:21:07,390 probably SOP when you feel like you 873 00:21:07,390 --> 00:21:09,930 probably SOP when you feel like you don't know as much as you should know 874 00:21:09,930 --> 00:21:09,940 don't know as much as you should know 875 00:21:09,940 --> 00:21:13,500 don't know as much as you should know about something and and again coming 876 00:21:13,500 --> 00:21:13,510 about something and and again coming 877 00:21:13,510 --> 00:21:14,640 about something and and again coming from the electrical side of the house 878 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:14,650 from the electrical side of the house 879 00:21:14,650 --> 00:21:16,260 from the electrical side of the house and trying to pick up the thermal and 880 00:21:16,260 --> 00:21:16,270 and trying to pick up the thermal and 881 00:21:16,270 --> 00:21:20,039 and trying to pick up the thermal and life-support stuff you you don't pick up 882 00:21:20,039 --> 00:21:20,049 life-support stuff you you don't pick up 883 00:21:20,049 --> 00:21:22,530 life-support stuff you you don't pick up all the knowledge you need in a matter 884 00:21:22,530 --> 00:21:22,540 all the knowledge you need in a matter 885 00:21:22,540 --> 00:21:24,900 all the knowledge you need in a matter of a couple of years which is probably 886 00:21:24,900 --> 00:21:24,910 of a couple of years which is probably 887 00:21:24,910 --> 00:21:27,440 of a couple of years which is probably as long as I had been thinking about it 888 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:27,450 as long as I had been thinking about it 889 00:21:27,450 --> 00:21:30,980 as long as I had been thinking about it so it's many years of a preparation to 890 00:21:30,980 --> 00:21:30,990 so it's many years of a preparation to 891 00:21:30,990 --> 00:21:35,269 so it's many years of a preparation to really understand those systems so to me 892 00:21:35,269 --> 00:21:35,279 really understand those systems so to me 893 00:21:35,279 --> 00:21:38,299 really understand those systems so to me it was basically all that we could all 894 00:21:38,299 --> 00:21:38,309 it was basically all that we could all 895 00:21:38,309 --> 00:21:40,970 it was basically all that we could all that I could do personally in limited 896 00:21:40,970 --> 00:21:40,980 that I could do personally in limited 897 00:21:40,980 --> 00:21:44,440 that I could do personally in limited time in order to be the most prepared 898 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:44,450 time in order to be the most prepared 899 00:21:44,450 --> 00:21:49,190 time in order to be the most prepared that I could so had I had five or ten 900 00:21:49,190 --> 00:21:49,200 that I could so had I had five or ten 901 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:50,419 that I could so had I had five or ten years experience and then I might have 902 00:21:50,419 --> 00:21:50,429 years experience and then I might have 903 00:21:50,429 --> 00:21:52,639 years experience and then I might have been more complacent to not felt the 904 00:21:52,639 --> 00:21:52,649 been more complacent to not felt the 905 00:21:52,649 --> 00:21:54,409 been more complacent to not felt the need to do that but I did it out of a 906 00:21:54,409 --> 00:21:54,419 need to do that but I did it out of a 907 00:21:54,419 --> 00:21:58,549 need to do that but I did it out of a personal I have to cover myself right 908 00:21:58,549 --> 00:21:58,559 personal I have to cover myself right 909 00:21:58,559 --> 00:22:01,909 personal I have to cover myself right right gotcha excellent let's keep going 910 00:22:01,909 --> 00:22:01,919 right gotcha excellent let's keep going 911 00:22:01,919 --> 00:22:03,230 right gotcha excellent let's keep going here so we got that right now the free 912 00:22:03,230 --> 00:22:03,240 here so we got that right now the free 913 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:21,470 here so we got that right now the free loops are that's something 914 00:22:21,470 --> 00:22:21,480 loops are that's something 915 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,289 loops are that's something sounds like we you talked about this 916 00:22:23,289 --> 00:22:23,299 sounds like we you talked about this 917 00:22:23,299 --> 00:22:26,180 sounds like we you talked about this previously so had you already stepped to 918 00:22:26,180 --> 00:22:26,190 previously so had you already stepped to 919 00:22:26,190 --> 00:22:28,250 previously so had you already stepped to kind of through the recovery of yes 920 00:22:28,250 --> 00:22:28,260 kind of through the recovery of yes 921 00:22:28,260 --> 00:22:32,810 kind of through the recovery of yes actually over time for him we actually 922 00:22:32,810 --> 00:22:32,820 actually over time for him we actually 923 00:22:32,820 --> 00:22:34,610 actually over time for him we actually went through all the continued CG 924 00:22:34,610 --> 00:22:34,620 went through all the continued CG 925 00:22:34,620 --> 00:22:36,889 went through all the continued CG aspects or recovery steps and kind of 926 00:22:36,889 --> 00:22:36,899 aspects or recovery steps and kind of 927 00:22:36,899 --> 00:22:39,950 aspects or recovery steps and kind of walking through it was really uh so we 928 00:22:39,950 --> 00:22:39,960 walking through it was really uh so we 929 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:41,450 walking through it was really uh so we kind of do the plan that we're going to 930 00:22:41,450 --> 00:22:41,460 kind of do the plan that we're going to 931 00:22:41,460 --> 00:22:54,639 kind of do the plan that we're going to do like again I was at the point 932 00:22:54,639 --> 00:22:54,649 933 00:22:54,649 --> 00:22:57,379 remember where those steps in the Indian 934 00:22:57,379 --> 00:22:57,389 remember where those steps in the Indian 935 00:22:57,389 --> 00:23:00,440 remember where those steps in the Indian trajecsys Tyvek kilo to reactivate like 936 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:00,450 trajecsys Tyvek kilo to reactivate like 937 00:23:00,450 --> 00:23:04,700 trajecsys Tyvek kilo to reactivate like that yes okay that's good and so your 938 00:23:04,700 --> 00:23:04,710 that yes okay that's good and so your 939 00:23:04,710 --> 00:23:06,049 that yes okay that's good and so your sounds like you're doing one loop at a 940 00:23:06,049 --> 00:23:06,059 sounds like you're doing one loop at a 941 00:23:06,059 --> 00:23:07,519 sounds like you're doing one loop at a time why don't you just turn them you 942 00:23:07,519 --> 00:23:07,529 time why don't you just turn them you 943 00:23:07,529 --> 00:23:10,190 time why don't you just turn them you know the under temps we've stopped it 944 00:23:10,190 --> 00:23:10,200 know the under temps we've stopped it 945 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:11,360 know the under temps we've stopped it let's go and turn them both on why did 946 00:23:11,360 --> 00:23:11,370 let's go and turn them both on why did 947 00:23:11,370 --> 00:23:13,310 let's go and turn them both on why did you do it that way instead of one loop 948 00:23:13,310 --> 00:23:13,320 you do it that way instead of one loop 949 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,200 you do it that way instead of one loop at a time oh it was actually part of a 950 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:15,210 at a time oh it was actually part of a 951 00:23:15,210 --> 00:23:16,610 at a time oh it was actually part of a procedure but the real reason is is 952 00:23:16,610 --> 00:23:16,620 procedure but the real reason is is 953 00:23:16,620 --> 00:23:18,889 procedure but the real reason is is you're owing your you're only activating 954 00:23:18,889 --> 00:23:18,899 you're owing your you're only activating 955 00:23:18,899 --> 00:23:23,330 you're owing your you're only activating one so half the ones saying you're only 956 00:23:23,330 --> 00:23:23,340 one so half the ones saying you're only 957 00:23:23,340 --> 00:23:25,529 one so half the ones saying you're only doing with half the coleslaw at a time 958 00:23:25,529 --> 00:23:25,539 doing with half the coleslaw at a time 959 00:23:25,539 --> 00:23:27,479 doing with half the coleslaw at a time and the vehicles being hot right now 960 00:23:27,479 --> 00:23:27,489 and the vehicles being hot right now 961 00:23:27,489 --> 00:23:29,399 and the vehicles being hot right now water loops we've got interchanges been 962 00:23:29,399 --> 00:23:29,409 water loops we've got interchanges been 963 00:23:29,409 --> 00:23:30,719 water loops we've got interchanges been hot since it's been running without any 964 00:23:30,719 --> 00:23:30,729 hot since it's been running without any 965 00:23:30,729 --> 00:23:33,149 hot since it's been running without any cooling so we trying to introduce one 966 00:23:33,149 --> 00:23:33,159 cooling so we trying to introduce one 967 00:23:33,159 --> 00:23:37,080 cooling so we trying to introduce one loop look it over only add you know and 968 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:37,090 loop look it over only add you know and 969 00:23:37,090 --> 00:23:39,359 loop look it over only add you know and one of the cold slugs at a time and then 970 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:39,369 one of the cold slugs at a time and then 971 00:23:39,369 --> 00:23:42,119 one of the cold slugs at a time and then evaluate you know how the system is 972 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:42,129 evaluate you know how the system is 973 00:23:42,129 --> 00:23:44,700 evaluate you know how the system is working so you get the insight into the 974 00:23:44,700 --> 00:23:44,710 working so you get the insight into the 975 00:23:44,710 --> 00:23:46,440 working so you get the insight into the situation whether or not you're under 976 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:46,450 situation whether or not you're under 977 00:23:46,450 --> 00:23:48,749 situation whether or not you're under temp situation is right basically 978 00:23:48,749 --> 00:23:48,759 temp situation is right basically 979 00:23:48,759 --> 00:23:51,869 temp situation is right basically remedied right or not with with you 980 00:23:51,869 --> 00:23:51,879 remedied right or not with with you 981 00:23:51,879 --> 00:23:53,729 remedied right or not with with you could look at as half the risk you know 982 00:23:53,729 --> 00:23:53,739 could look at as half the risk you know 983 00:23:53,739 --> 00:23:55,739 could look at as half the risk you know half the heat rejection right quality 984 00:23:55,739 --> 00:23:55,749 half the heat rejection right quality 985 00:23:55,749 --> 00:23:57,690 half the heat rejection right quality the heat exchanger and I wasn't paying 986 00:23:57,690 --> 00:23:57,700 the heat exchanger and I wasn't paying 987 00:23:57,700 --> 00:23:58,979 the heat exchanger and I wasn't paying attention to gel pick where you're 988 00:23:58,979 --> 00:23:58,989 attention to gel pick where you're 989 00:23:58,989 --> 00:24:00,839 attention to gel pick where you're picking the freon loop that was 990 00:24:00,839 --> 00:24:00,849 picking the freon loop that was 991 00:24:00,849 --> 00:24:02,519 picking the freon loop that was associated with the ammonia system I 992 00:24:02,519 --> 00:24:02,529 associated with the ammonia system I 993 00:24:02,529 --> 00:24:04,769 associated with the ammonia system I wasn't paying attention to that actually 994 00:24:04,769 --> 00:24:04,779 wasn't paying attention to that actually 995 00:24:04,779 --> 00:24:06,539 wasn't paying attention to that actually Baltimore loops were off at the time so 996 00:24:06,539 --> 00:24:06,549 Baltimore loops were off at the time so 997 00:24:06,549 --> 00:24:08,430 Baltimore loops were off at the time so I mean we turn it back oh you knew both 998 00:24:08,430 --> 00:24:08,440 I mean we turn it back oh you knew both 999 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:09,839 I mean we turn it back oh you knew both ammonia systems are off it didn't matter 1000 00:24:09,839 --> 00:24:09,849 ammonia systems are off it didn't matter 1001 00:24:09,849 --> 00:24:11,969 ammonia systems are off it didn't matter right okay that's right okay do we have 1002 00:24:11,969 --> 00:24:11,979 right okay that's right okay do we have 1003 00:24:11,979 --> 00:24:16,080 right okay that's right okay do we have an additional measurement on one yeah 1004 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:16,090 an additional measurement on one yeah 1005 00:24:16,090 --> 00:24:18,239 an additional measurement on one yeah you had an interchange are in on loop 1006 00:24:18,239 --> 00:24:18,249 you had an interchange are in on loop 1007 00:24:18,249 --> 00:24:20,789 you had an interchange are in on loop one okay yeah so out of the fit swipe we 1008 00:24:20,789 --> 00:24:20,799 one okay yeah so out of the fit swipe we 1009 00:24:20,799 --> 00:24:21,960 one okay yeah so out of the fit swipe we might have picked you might have picked 1010 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:21,970 might have picked you might have picked 1011 00:24:21,970 --> 00:24:22,710 might have picked you might have picked that one first 1012 00:24:22,710 --> 00:24:22,720 that one first 1013 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:27,930 that one first okay I just did what he says chuckles 1014 00:24:27,930 --> 00:24:27,940 okay I just did what he says chuckles 1015 00:24:27,940 --> 00:24:30,719 okay I just did what he says chuckles good okay now I can tremor now if he 1016 00:24:30,719 --> 00:24:30,729 good okay now I can tremor now if he 1017 00:24:30,729 --> 00:24:32,639 good okay now I can tremor now if he already gone flow proportioning valve to 1018 00:24:32,639 --> 00:24:32,649 already gone flow proportioning valve to 1019 00:24:32,649 --> 00:24:34,409 already gone flow proportioning valve to payload at this point I can't actually 1020 00:24:34,409 --> 00:24:34,419 payload at this point I can't actually 1021 00:24:34,419 --> 00:24:36,989 payload at this point I can't actually believe it or not the old procedure was 1022 00:24:36,989 --> 00:24:36,999 believe it or not the old procedure was 1023 00:24:36,999 --> 00:24:38,879 believe it or not the old procedure was go to interchange er the assumption was 1024 00:24:38,879 --> 00:24:38,889 go to interchange er the assumption was 1025 00:24:38,889 --> 00:24:40,379 go to interchange er the assumption was the payload loop was gonna be the so 1026 00:24:40,379 --> 00:24:40,389 the payload loop was gonna be the so 1027 00:24:40,389 --> 00:24:42,839 the payload loop was gonna be the so slower flowing loops so with the 1028 00:24:42,839 --> 00:24:42,849 slower flowing loops so with the 1029 00:24:42,849 --> 00:24:45,690 slower flowing loops so with the procedures written generically always go 1030 00:24:45,690 --> 00:24:45,700 procedures written generically always go 1031 00:24:45,700 --> 00:24:46,560 procedures written generically always go to interchange 1032 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:46,570 to interchange 1033 00:24:46,570 --> 00:24:49,859 to interchange oh it's been changed and so right right 1034 00:24:49,859 --> 00:24:49,869 oh it's been changed and so right right 1035 00:24:49,869 --> 00:24:51,989 oh it's been changed and so right right right so if you had a payload you would 1036 00:24:51,989 --> 00:24:51,999 right so if you had a payload you would 1037 00:24:51,999 --> 00:24:54,060 right so if you had a payload you would freeze that payloads water if it was 1038 00:24:54,060 --> 00:24:54,070 freeze that payloads water if it was 1039 00:24:54,070 --> 00:25:26,450 freeze that payloads water if it was there okay 1040 00:25:26,450 --> 00:25:26,460 1041 00:25:26,460 --> 00:25:28,800 did I catch that right y'all didn't turn 1042 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:28,810 did I catch that right y'all didn't turn 1043 00:25:28,810 --> 00:25:30,210 did I catch that right y'all didn't turn the water loop off unless they must have 1044 00:25:30,210 --> 00:25:30,220 the water loop off unless they must have 1045 00:25:30,220 --> 00:25:32,580 the water loop off unless they must have said it wrong you may have said on well 1046 00:25:32,580 --> 00:25:32,590 said it wrong you may have said on well 1047 00:25:32,590 --> 00:25:35,010 said it wrong you may have said on well maybe that's on yeah one of the points 1048 00:25:35,010 --> 00:25:35,020 maybe that's on yeah one of the points 1049 00:25:35,020 --> 00:25:37,140 maybe that's on yeah one of the points to is in when you listen to this loop 1050 00:25:37,140 --> 00:25:37,150 to is in when you listen to this loop 1051 00:25:37,150 --> 00:25:40,050 to is in when you listen to this loop it's amazing to me after listening to 1052 00:25:40,050 --> 00:25:40,060 it's amazing to me after listening to 1053 00:25:40,060 --> 00:25:41,850 it's amazing to me after listening to this thing how I knew exactly what I'm 1054 00:25:41,850 --> 00:25:41,860 this thing how I knew exactly what I'm 1055 00:25:41,860 --> 00:25:44,520 this thing how I knew exactly what I'm going to do but I was under the stress 1056 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:44,530 going to do but I was under the stress 1057 00:25:44,530 --> 00:25:53,550 going to do but I was under the stress in panic but under the stress I was 1058 00:25:53,550 --> 00:25:53,560 in panic but under the stress I was 1059 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,650 in panic but under the stress I was having trying to communicating exactly I 1060 00:25:55,650 --> 00:25:55,660 having trying to communicating exactly I 1061 00:25:55,660 --> 00:25:58,890 having trying to communicating exactly I was having trouble between between 1 and 1062 00:25:58,890 --> 00:25:58,900 was having trouble between between 1 and 1063 00:25:58,900 --> 00:26:01,290 was having trouble between between 1 and 2 and what pump I was filling to 1064 00:26:01,290 --> 00:26:01,300 2 and what pump I was filling to 1065 00:26:01,300 --> 00:26:02,850 2 and what pump I was filling to communicate Chuck did an excellent job 1066 00:26:02,850 --> 00:26:02,860 communicate Chuck did an excellent job 1067 00:26:02,860 --> 00:26:03,780 communicate Chuck did an excellent job it's ok 1068 00:26:03,780 --> 00:26:03,790 it's ok 1069 00:26:03,790 --> 00:26:05,430 it's ok I heard what you said is this really 1070 00:26:05,430 --> 00:26:05,440 I heard what you said is this really 1071 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,710 I heard what you said is this really what you wanted were you saying and it 1072 00:26:07,710 --> 00:26:07,720 what you wanted were you saying and it 1073 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,300 what you wanted were you saying and it was very easy to go back and say yes 1074 00:26:09,300 --> 00:26:09,310 was very easy to go back and say yes 1075 00:26:09,310 --> 00:26:11,430 was very easy to go back and say yes that's what I meant to say but it was 1076 00:26:11,430 --> 00:26:11,440 that's what I meant to say but it was 1077 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,370 that's what I meant to say but it was amazing how simple things like loop 1 1078 00:26:14,370 --> 00:26:14,380 amazing how simple things like loop 1 1079 00:26:14,380 --> 00:26:15,960 amazing how simple things like loop 1 loop 2 even they had the procedure over 1080 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:15,970 loop 2 even they had the procedure over 1081 00:26:15,970 --> 00:26:17,460 loop 2 even they had the procedure over I was saying the wrong thing he just 1082 00:26:17,460 --> 00:26:17,470 I was saying the wrong thing he just 1083 00:26:17,470 --> 00:26:19,140 I was saying the wrong thing he just gonna stress it and I think Chuck said 1084 00:26:19,140 --> 00:26:19,150 gonna stress it and I think Chuck said 1085 00:26:19,150 --> 00:26:21,150 gonna stress it and I think Chuck said you had you got yourself out of the 1086 00:26:21,150 --> 00:26:21,160 you had you got yourself out of the 1087 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,100 you had you got yourself out of the quick response situation by turn of the 1088 00:26:23,100 --> 00:26:23,110 quick response situation by turn of the 1089 00:26:23,110 --> 00:26:24,360 quick response situation by turn of the friend loose off now you had kind of an 1090 00:26:24,360 --> 00:26:24,370 friend loose off now you had kind of an 1091 00:26:24,370 --> 00:26:26,520 friend loose off now you had kind of an order of magnitude more so you could 1092 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:26,530 order of magnitude more so you could 1093 00:26:26,530 --> 00:26:27,750 order of magnitude more so you could slow down a little bit right a little 1094 00:26:27,750 --> 00:26:27,760 slow down a little bit right a little 1095 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,940 slow down a little bit right a little you know yeah not a lot you got the fuel 1096 00:26:29,940 --> 00:26:29,950 you know yeah not a lot you got the fuel 1097 00:26:29,950 --> 00:26:32,730 you know yeah not a lot you got the fuel cells out there heating up but yeah you 1098 00:26:32,730 --> 00:26:32,740 cells out there heating up but yeah you 1099 00:26:32,740 --> 00:26:34,140 cells out there heating up but yeah you could able to slow down a little so does 1100 00:26:34,140 --> 00:26:34,150 could able to slow down a little so does 1101 00:26:34,150 --> 00:26:35,580 could able to slow down a little so does that go through your mind ok I can take 1102 00:26:35,580 --> 00:26:35,590 that go through your mind ok I can take 1103 00:26:35,590 --> 00:26:37,140 that go through your mind ok I can take a little bit more time make sure I'm 1104 00:26:37,140 --> 00:26:37,150 a little bit more time make sure I'm 1105 00:26:37,150 --> 00:26:39,540 a little bit more time make sure I'm understanding the you know pedal to the 1106 00:26:39,540 --> 00:26:39,550 understanding the you know pedal to the 1107 00:26:39,550 --> 00:27:08,170 understanding the you know pedal to the metal in your mind I think it was 1108 00:27:08,170 --> 00:27:08,180 1109 00:27:08,180 --> 00:27:36,080 okay I never heard that before until you 1110 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:36,090 okay I never heard that before until you 1111 00:27:36,090 --> 00:28:32,750 okay I never heard that before until you mentioned 1112 00:28:32,750 --> 00:28:32,760 1113 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:34,920 at that point you had one friend loop up 1114 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:34,930 at that point you had one friend loop up 1115 00:28:34,930 --> 00:28:36,780 at that point you had one friend loop up and I heard the EPSS mentor right when 1116 00:28:36,780 --> 00:28:36,790 and I heard the EPSS mentor right when 1117 00:28:36,790 --> 00:28:38,460 and I heard the EPSS mentor right when that Larry men are back there saying the 1118 00:28:38,460 --> 00:28:38,470 that Larry men are back there saying the 1119 00:28:38,470 --> 00:28:40,080 that Larry men are back there saying the fuel cell returned temps starting to 1120 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:40,090 fuel cell returned temps starting to 1121 00:28:40,090 --> 00:28:43,560 fuel cell returned temps starting to skyrocket at that point with one 1122 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:43,570 skyrocket at that point with one 1123 00:28:43,570 --> 00:28:45,570 skyrocket at that point with one friendly pup were y'all feeling pretty 1124 00:28:45,570 --> 00:28:45,580 friendly pup were y'all feeling pretty 1125 00:28:45,580 --> 00:28:46,980 friendly pup were y'all feeling pretty good about yourselves or did you need to 1126 00:28:46,980 --> 00:28:46,990 good about yourselves or did you need to 1127 00:28:46,990 --> 00:28:50,970 good about yourselves or did you need to keep going get both loops up to you know 1128 00:28:50,970 --> 00:28:50,980 keep going get both loops up to you know 1129 00:28:50,980 --> 00:28:53,040 keep going get both loops up to you know get yourself in a really good config or 1130 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:53,050 get yourself in a really good config or 1131 00:28:53,050 --> 00:29:03,420 get yourself in a really good config or what was your clock like or starting to 1132 00:29:03,420 --> 00:29:03,430 what was your clock like or starting to 1133 00:29:03,430 --> 00:29:36,480 what was your clock like or starting to get over the hump so I know you just 1134 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:36,490 get over the hump so I know you just 1135 00:29:36,490 --> 00:29:38,070 get over the hump so I know you just said it there but just to put it out 1136 00:29:38,070 --> 00:29:38,080 said it there but just to put it out 1137 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,800 said it there but just to put it out there so at that point what was the 1138 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:40,810 there so at that point what was the 1139 00:29:40,810 --> 00:29:42,090 there so at that point what was the problem and how did this whole thing 1140 00:29:42,090 --> 00:29:42,100 problem and how did this whole thing 1141 00:29:42,100 --> 00:29:48,540 problem and how did this whole thing kind of evolve they did a new when they 1142 00:29:48,540 --> 00:29:48,550 kind of evolve they did a new when they 1143 00:29:48,550 --> 00:29:51,860 kind of evolve they did a new when they did a new procedure at on the cooling 1144 00:29:51,860 --> 00:29:51,870 did a new procedure at on the cooling 1145 00:29:51,870 --> 00:29:54,870 did a new procedure at on the cooling cart with a research fluid 1146 00:29:54,870 --> 00:29:54,880 cart with a research fluid 1147 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:59,580 cart with a research fluid I believe research recirculated the 1148 00:29:59,580 --> 00:29:59,590 I believe research recirculated the 1149 00:29:59,590 --> 00:30:01,590 I believe research recirculated the fluid in the cooling cart it would allow 1150 00:30:01,590 --> 00:30:01,600 fluid in the cooling cart it would allow 1151 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:06,810 fluid in the cooling cart it would allow this old slug to build up and so when 1152 00:30:06,810 --> 00:30:06,820 this old slug to build up and so when 1153 00:30:06,820 --> 00:30:08,430 this old slug to build up and so when they initiated they got this really cold 1154 00:30:08,430 --> 00:30:08,440 they initiated they got this really cold 1155 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,020 they initiated they got this really cold slug to occur and I think that was it 1156 00:30:10,020 --> 00:30:10,030 slug to occur and I think that was it 1157 00:30:10,030 --> 00:30:12,420 slug to occur and I think that was it was a but there was a new procedure they 1158 00:30:12,420 --> 00:30:12,430 was a but there was a new procedure they 1159 00:30:12,430 --> 00:30:14,490 was a but there was a new procedure they implemented it for 27 and I think they 1160 00:30:14,490 --> 00:30:14,500 implemented it for 27 and I think they 1161 00:30:14,500 --> 00:30:18,390 implemented it for 27 and I think they didn't change it back after 27 1162 00:30:18,390 --> 00:30:18,400 didn't change it back after 27 1163 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,910 didn't change it back after 27 although standard procedure they had was 1164 00:30:20,910 --> 00:30:20,920 although standard procedure they had was 1165 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,930 although standard procedure they had was it back then was it standard to have the 1166 00:30:24,930 --> 00:30:24,940 it back then was it standard to have the 1167 00:30:24,940 --> 00:30:26,490 it back then was it standard to have the ammonia in the ground cooling but at the 1168 00:30:26,490 --> 00:30:26,500 ammonia in the ground cooling but at the 1169 00:30:26,500 --> 00:30:27,750 ammonia in the ground cooling but at the same time they both came up at the same 1170 00:30:27,750 --> 00:30:27,760 same time they both came up at the same 1171 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:29,040 same time they both came up at the same time right he had ammonia and they 1172 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:29,050 time right he had ammonia and they 1173 00:30:29,050 --> 00:30:31,170 time right he had ammonia and they hooked up is that was that standard back 1174 00:30:31,170 --> 00:30:31,180 hooked up is that was that standard back 1175 00:30:31,180 --> 00:30:33,360 hooked up is that was that standard back then normally they would notify us ahead 1176 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:33,370 then normally they would notify us ahead 1177 00:30:33,370 --> 00:30:35,400 then normally they would notify us ahead of time that they're ready to initiate 1178 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:35,410 of time that they're ready to initiate 1179 00:30:35,410 --> 00:30:37,410 of time that they're ready to initiate at that point we would make the call at 1180 00:30:37,410 --> 00:30:37,420 at that point we would make the call at 1181 00:30:37,420 --> 00:30:39,690 at that point we would make the call at deactivate the ammonia and then they 1182 00:30:39,690 --> 00:30:39,700 deactivate the ammonia and then they 1183 00:30:39,700 --> 00:30:41,160 deactivate the ammonia and then they would initiate in this case they 1184 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:41,170 would initiate in this case they 1185 00:30:41,170 --> 00:30:42,000 would initiate in this case they initiated 1186 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:42,010 initiated 1187 00:30:42,010 --> 00:30:44,910 initiated I don't know wasn't because it's a new 1188 00:30:44,910 --> 00:30:44,920 I don't know wasn't because it's a new 1189 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:46,620 I don't know wasn't because it's a new procedure researched and this Cole 1190 00:30:46,620 --> 00:30:46,630 procedure researched and this Cole 1191 00:30:46,630 --> 00:30:50,010 procedure researched and this Cole suddenly initiated it up but we were not 1192 00:30:50,010 --> 00:30:50,020 suddenly initiated it up but we were not 1193 00:30:50,020 --> 00:30:51,210 suddenly initiated it up but we were not notified that they were about to 1194 00:30:51,210 --> 00:30:51,220 notified that they were about to 1195 00:30:51,220 --> 00:30:53,010 notified that they were about to initiate it and that there was also 1196 00:30:53,010 --> 00:30:53,020 initiate it and that there was also 1197 00:30:53,020 --> 00:30:54,960 initiate it and that there was also there was some pressure that they knew 1198 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:54,970 there was some pressure that they knew 1199 00:30:54,970 --> 00:30:56,880 there was some pressure that they knew that we're getting near the end of our 1200 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:56,890 that we're getting near the end of our 1201 00:30:56,890 --> 00:30:59,280 that we're getting near the end of our second ammonia tank right and there has 1202 00:30:59,280 --> 00:30:59,290 second ammonia tank right and there has 1203 00:30:59,290 --> 00:31:01,800 second ammonia tank right and there has there being a schedule right there to 1204 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:01,810 there being a schedule right there to 1205 00:31:01,810 --> 00:31:04,080 there being a schedule right there to get scheduled pressure to get get that 1206 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:04,090 get scheduled pressure to get get that 1207 00:31:04,090 --> 00:31:06,270 get scheduled pressure to get get that initiated so I think that they got in a 1208 00:31:06,270 --> 00:31:06,280 initiated so I think that they got in a 1209 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,340 initiated so I think that they got in a hurry and they initiated without going 1210 00:31:08,340 --> 00:31:08,350 hurry and they initiated without going 1211 00:31:08,350 --> 00:31:10,890 hurry and they initiated without going to mal seizure with a contact and say 1212 00:31:10,890 --> 00:31:10,900 to mal seizure with a contact and say 1213 00:31:10,900 --> 00:31:12,510 to mal seizure with a contact and say I'm more about to initiate wow so 1214 00:31:12,510 --> 00:31:12,520 I'm more about to initiate wow so 1215 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:13,620 I'm more about to initiate wow so there's another another piece of an 1216 00:31:13,620 --> 00:31:13,630 there's another another piece of an 1217 00:31:13,630 --> 00:31:15,420 there's another another piece of an error change you got some some guys on 1218 00:31:15,420 --> 00:31:15,430 error change you got some some guys on 1219 00:31:15,430 --> 00:31:16,710 error change you got some some guys on the other end her feelings and schedule 1220 00:31:16,710 --> 00:31:16,720 the other end her feelings and schedule 1221 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,360 the other end her feelings and schedule pressure we've got some procedures that 1222 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:18,370 pressure we've got some procedures that 1223 00:31:18,370 --> 00:31:21,270 pressure we've got some procedures that weren't synced up to calm but wasn't 1224 00:31:21,270 --> 00:31:21,280 weren't synced up to calm but wasn't 1225 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,730 weren't synced up to calm but wasn't synced up people starting to get 1226 00:31:23,730 --> 00:31:23,740 synced up people starting to get 1227 00:31:23,740 --> 00:31:25,830 synced up people starting to get distracted with the plaque King there 1228 00:31:25,830 --> 00:31:25,840 distracted with the plaque King there 1229 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:27,630 distracted with the plaque King there was a lot of a lot of variables going on 1230 00:31:27,630 --> 00:31:27,640 was a lot of a lot of variables going on 1231 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,680 was a lot of a lot of variables going on in there and I captured that really well 1232 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:30,690 in there and I captured that really well 1233 00:31:30,690 --> 00:31:33,570 in there and I captured that really well I didn't realize that that all that was 1234 00:31:33,570 --> 00:31:33,580 I didn't realize that that all that was 1235 00:31:33,580 --> 00:31:36,390 I didn't realize that that all that was going on and even listening to the to 1236 00:31:36,390 --> 00:31:36,400 going on and even listening to the to 1237 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,460 going on and even listening to the to the recording I didn't realize you could 1238 00:31:38,460 --> 00:31:38,470 the recording I didn't realize you could 1239 00:31:38,470 --> 00:31:40,710 the recording I didn't realize you could guys had you guys had obstacles out in 1240 00:31:40,710 --> 00:31:40,720 guys had you guys had obstacles out in 1241 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,660 guys had you guys had obstacles out in front of you didn't know about right 1242 00:31:42,660 --> 00:31:42,670 front of you didn't know about right 1243 00:31:42,670 --> 00:31:45,630 front of you didn't know about right yeah that's really good in hindsight is 1244 00:31:45,630 --> 00:31:45,640 yeah that's really good in hindsight is 1245 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,270 yeah that's really good in hindsight is always 20/20 I I wish that I would have 1246 00:31:48,270 --> 00:31:48,280 always 20/20 I I wish that I would have 1247 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:53,130 always 20/20 I I wish that I would have done 1248 00:31:53,130 --> 00:31:53,140 1249 00:31:53,140 --> 00:31:58,500 KSC end to have a better handoff and I 1250 00:31:58,500 --> 00:31:58,510 KSC end to have a better handoff and I 1251 00:31:58,510 --> 00:32:01,350 KSC end to have a better handoff and I think we did improve on that a lot after 1252 00:32:01,350 --> 00:32:01,360 think we did improve on that a lot after 1253 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,680 think we did improve on that a lot after after that right right let's see what 1254 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:04,690 after that right right let's see what 1255 00:32:04,690 --> 00:32:18,480 after that right right let's see what else so sounds like EPS is freaking out 1256 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:18,490 else so sounds like EPS is freaking out 1257 00:32:18,490 --> 00:32:19,919 else so sounds like EPS is freaking out a little bit but you know it's it's 1258 00:32:19,919 --> 00:32:19,929 a little bit but you know it's it's 1259 00:32:19,929 --> 00:32:23,460 a little bit but you know it's it's gonna get better here I was like I I 1260 00:32:23,460 --> 00:32:23,470 gonna get better here I was like I I 1261 00:32:23,470 --> 00:32:25,200 gonna get better here I was like I I don't know if it was out of ignorance or 1262 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:25,210 don't know if it was out of ignorance or 1263 00:32:25,210 --> 00:32:26,850 don't know if it was out of ignorance or not but I was less concerned about it 1264 00:32:26,850 --> 00:32:26,860 not but I was less concerned about it 1265 00:32:26,860 --> 00:32:30,060 not but I was less concerned about it then then Larry was at the at the time 1266 00:32:30,060 --> 00:32:30,070 then then Larry was at the at the time 1267 00:32:30,070 --> 00:32:32,549 then then Larry was at the at the time yes and you knew you had you had one 1268 00:32:32,549 --> 00:32:32,559 yes and you knew you had you had one 1269 00:32:32,559 --> 00:32:33,900 yes and you knew you had you had one friendly pup senior you had some cool 1270 00:32:33,900 --> 00:32:33,910 friendly pup senior you had some cool 1271 00:32:33,910 --> 00:32:35,549 friendly pup senior you had some cool you remember what the kW was about that 1272 00:32:35,549 --> 00:32:35,559 you remember what the kW was about that 1273 00:32:35,559 --> 00:32:38,100 you remember what the kW was about that time I think he was saying for about 1274 00:32:38,100 --> 00:32:38,110 time I think he was saying for about 1275 00:32:38,110 --> 00:32:40,380 time I think he was saying for about four probably are never fuel stuff for 1276 00:32:40,380 --> 00:32:40,390 four probably are never fuel stuff for 1277 00:32:40,390 --> 00:32:42,480 four probably are never fuel stuff for that fuel cell right I see but so if 1278 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:42,490 that fuel cell right I see but so if 1279 00:32:42,490 --> 00:32:44,159 that fuel cell right I see but so if there even is probably about 12 or so 1280 00:32:44,159 --> 00:32:44,169 there even is probably about 12 or so 1281 00:32:44,169 --> 00:32:45,840 there even is probably about 12 or so right yeah so one friend lives should be 1282 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:45,850 right yeah so one friend lives should be 1283 00:32:45,850 --> 00:32:48,120 right yeah so one friend lives should be able to handle handle 12 pretty well 1284 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:48,130 able to handle handle 12 pretty well 1285 00:32:48,130 --> 00:33:13,600 able to handle handle 12 pretty well okay 1286 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:13,610 1287 00:33:13,610 --> 00:33:15,019 yeah 1288 00:33:15,019 --> 00:33:15,029 yeah 1289 00:33:15,029 --> 00:33:18,019 yeah here we see cooling on now or go to 1290 00:33:18,019 --> 00:33:18,029 here we see cooling on now or go to 1291 00:33:18,029 --> 00:33:28,310 here we see cooling on now or go to think free only to to pump I just I 1292 00:33:28,310 --> 00:33:28,320 think free only to to pump I just I 1293 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:46,399 think free only to to pump I just I couldn't take freon pump so as quickly 1294 00:33:46,399 --> 00:33:46,409 couldn't take freon pump so as quickly 1295 00:33:46,409 --> 00:33:49,430 couldn't take freon pump so as quickly as it came and almost subsided and 1296 00:33:49,430 --> 00:33:49,440 as it came and almost subsided and 1297 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:50,659 as it came and almost subsided and forget all about you right 1298 00:33:50,659 --> 00:33:50,669 forget all about you right 1299 00:33:50,669 --> 00:33:53,029 forget all about you right yeah like when said that since that was 1300 00:33:53,029 --> 00:33:53,039 yeah like when said that since that was 1301 00:33:53,039 --> 00:33:54,830 yeah like when said that since that was the Vox I think the pain lasted a little 1302 00:33:54,830 --> 00:33:54,840 the Vox I think the pain lasted a little 1303 00:33:54,840 --> 00:34:00,409 the Vox I think the pain lasted a little bit yeah this is a box this is what we 1304 00:34:00,409 --> 00:34:00,419 bit yeah this is a box this is what we 1305 00:34:00,419 --> 00:34:01,759 bit yeah this is a box this is what we got about nine and a half minutes there 1306 00:34:01,759 --> 00:34:01,769 got about nine and a half minutes there 1307 00:34:01,769 --> 00:34:04,759 got about nine and a half minutes there so unboxed how long do you think the 1308 00:34:04,759 --> 00:34:04,769 so unboxed how long do you think the 1309 00:34:04,769 --> 00:34:06,320 so unboxed how long do you think the situation really went about double that 1310 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:06,330 situation really went about double that 1311 00:34:06,330 --> 00:34:08,659 situation really went about double that maybe your you'll recall that's probably 1312 00:34:08,659 --> 00:34:08,669 maybe your you'll recall that's probably 1313 00:34:08,669 --> 00:34:13,240 maybe your you'll recall that's probably yes right let's excellent any other 1314 00:34:13,240 --> 00:34:13,250 yes right let's excellent any other 1315 00:34:13,250 --> 00:34:16,010 yes right let's excellent any other summary thoughts about the situation he 1316 00:34:16,010 --> 00:34:16,020 summary thoughts about the situation he 1317 00:34:16,020 --> 00:34:17,599 summary thoughts about the situation he gave a lot of hindsight while you were 1318 00:34:17,599 --> 00:34:17,609 gave a lot of hindsight while you were 1319 00:34:17,609 --> 00:34:20,210 gave a lot of hindsight while you were well we were going but any any other 1320 00:34:20,210 --> 00:34:20,220 well we were going but any any other 1321 00:34:20,220 --> 00:34:23,740 well we were going but any any other thoughts about the situation I guess 1322 00:34:23,740 --> 00:34:23,750 thoughts about the situation I guess 1323 00:34:23,750 --> 00:34:26,089 thoughts about the situation I guess some of the things that came from this 1324 00:34:26,089 --> 00:34:26,099 some of the things that came from this 1325 00:34:26,099 --> 00:34:28,819 some of the things that came from this mission and like we talked about like 1326 00:34:28,819 --> 00:34:28,829 mission and like we talked about like 1327 00:34:28,829 --> 00:34:32,149 mission and like we talked about like rule one last one got changed we started 1328 00:34:32,149 --> 00:34:32,159 rule one last one got changed we started 1329 00:34:32,159 --> 00:34:34,909 rule one last one got changed we started to Train post-landing we spent a lot of 1330 00:34:34,909 --> 00:34:34,919 to Train post-landing we spent a lot of 1331 00:34:34,919 --> 00:34:37,849 to Train post-landing we spent a lot of time with the KSC folks trying to 1332 00:34:37,849 --> 00:34:37,859 time with the KSC folks trying to 1333 00:34:37,859 --> 00:34:40,129 time with the KSC folks trying to establish better protocols and 1334 00:34:40,129 --> 00:34:40,139 establish better protocols and 1335 00:34:40,139 --> 00:34:42,319 establish better protocols and communication between the e common 1336 00:34:42,319 --> 00:34:42,329 communication between the e common 1337 00:34:42,329 --> 00:34:48,379 communication between the e common ground and the ground convoy guys we we 1338 00:34:48,379 --> 00:34:48,389 ground and the ground convoy guys we we 1339 00:34:48,389 --> 00:34:51,819 ground and the ground convoy guys we we improved the about t-mobile procedure a 1340 00:34:51,819 --> 00:34:51,829 improved the about t-mobile procedure a 1341 00:34:51,829 --> 00:34:54,980 improved the about t-mobile procedure a lot of improvements on how to go through 1342 00:34:54,980 --> 00:34:54,990 lot of improvements on how to go through 1343 00:34:54,990 --> 00:35:00,710 lot of improvements on how to go through it what else to do we your Miami stuff I 1344 00:35:00,710 --> 00:35:00,720 it what else to do we your Miami stuff I 1345 00:35:00,720 --> 00:35:05,540 it what else to do we your Miami stuff I long there was a lot of improvements on 1346 00:35:05,540 --> 00:35:05,550 long there was a lot of improvements on 1347 00:35:05,550 --> 00:35:07,010 long there was a lot of improvements on how oh and the communication with the 1348 00:35:07,010 --> 00:35:07,020 how oh and the communication with the 1349 00:35:07,020 --> 00:35:08,690 how oh and the communication with the flight director stressing with them that 1350 00:35:08,690 --> 00:35:08,700 flight director stressing with them that 1351 00:35:08,700 --> 00:35:11,540 flight director stressing with them that hey look at the vehicle here's what 1352 00:35:11,540 --> 00:35:11,550 hey look at the vehicle here's what 1353 00:35:11,550 --> 00:35:13,970 hey look at the vehicle here's what under temp occurs this is why we're so 1354 00:35:13,970 --> 00:35:13,980 under temp occurs this is why we're so 1355 00:35:13,980 --> 00:35:16,520 under temp occurs this is why we're so scared of it and they in the flight 1356 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:16,530 scared of it and they in the flight 1357 00:35:16,530 --> 00:35:17,500 scared of it and they in the flight Richards in a lot 1358 00:35:17,500 --> 00:35:17,510 Richards in a lot 1359 00:35:17,510 --> 00:35:19,180 Richards in a lot better job post-landing to make sure the 1360 00:35:19,180 --> 00:35:19,190 better job post-landing to make sure the 1361 00:35:19,190 --> 00:35:21,310 better job post-landing to make sure the team is cognizant hey not me ain't 1362 00:35:21,310 --> 00:35:21,320 team is cognizant hey not me ain't 1363 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,040 team is cognizant hey not me ain't handing over until keep the room quiet 1364 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:24,050 handing over until keep the room quiet 1365 00:35:24,050 --> 00:35:27,190 handing over until keep the room quiet until around who's established and the 1366 00:35:27,190 --> 00:35:27,200 until around who's established and the 1367 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,790 until around who's established and the crews out itself sometimes even when the 1368 00:35:30,790 --> 00:35:30,800 crews out itself sometimes even when the 1369 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,860 crews out itself sometimes even when the missions seemingly over it may not be 1370 00:35:32,860 --> 00:35:32,870 missions seemingly over it may not be 1371 00:35:32,870 --> 00:35:35,620 missions seemingly over it may not be over in the midst of distraction the 1372 00:35:35,620 --> 00:35:35,630 over in the midst of distraction the 1373 00:35:35,630 --> 00:35:37,750 over in the midst of distraction the EECOM team identified the under temp 1374 00:35:37,750 --> 00:35:37,760 EECOM team identified the under temp 1375 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,540 EECOM team identified the under temp situation diagnose the cause of two 1376 00:35:40,540 --> 00:35:40,550 situation diagnose the cause of two 1377 00:35:40,550 --> 00:35:42,600 situation diagnose the cause of two cooling systems running simultaneously 1378 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:42,610 cooling systems running simultaneously 1379 00:35:42,610 --> 00:35:45,310 cooling systems running simultaneously then resolve the situation while 1380 00:35:45,310 --> 00:35:45,320 then resolve the situation while 1381 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,380 then resolve the situation while preserving crew safety and all vehicle 1382 00:35:47,380 --> 00:35:47,390 preserving crew safety and all vehicle 1383 00:35:47,390 --> 00:35:50,500 preserving crew safety and all vehicle hardware the mcc flight controller is 1384 00:35:50,500 --> 00:35:50,510 hardware the mcc flight controller is 1385 00:35:50,510 --> 00:35:52,480 hardware the mcc flight controller is one who must always be aware that 1386 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:52,490 one who must always be aware that 1387 00:35:52,490 --> 00:35:55,780 one who must always be aware that suddenly and unexpectedly we may find 1388 00:35:55,780 --> 00:35:55,790 suddenly and unexpectedly we may find 1389 00:35:55,790 --> 00:35:57,130 suddenly and unexpectedly we may find ourselves in a role where our 1390 00:35:57,130 --> 00:35:57,140 ourselves in a role where our 1391 00:35:57,140 --> 00:35:59,250 ourselves in a role where our performance has ultimate consequences 1392 00:35:59,250 --> 00:35:59,260 performance has ultimate consequences 1393 00:35:59,260 --> 00:36:02,580 performance has ultimate consequences discipline competence confidence 1394 00:36:02,580 --> 00:36:02,590 discipline competence confidence 1395 00:36:02,590 --> 00:36:05,740 discipline competence confidence responsibility toughness teamwork and 1396 00:36:05,740 --> 00:36:05,750 responsibility toughness teamwork and 1397 00:36:05,750 --> 00:36:08,290 responsibility toughness teamwork and vigilance these are our core values 1398 00:36:08,290 --> 00:36:08,300 vigilance these are our core values 1399 00:36:08,300 --> 00:36:10,450 vigilance these are our core values values that have served us well 1400 00:36:10,450 --> 00:36:10,460 values that have served us well 1401 00:36:10,460 --> 00:36:12,400 values that have served us well values that have allowed us to slip the 1402 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:12,410 values that have allowed us to slip the 1403 00:36:12,410 --> 00:36:14,320 values that have allowed us to slip the surly bonds of Earth and perform our 1404 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:14,330 surly bonds of Earth and perform our 1405 00:36:14,330 --> 00:36:39,460 surly bonds of Earth and perform our dance above the skies 1406 00:36:39,460 --> 00:36:39,470 1407 00:36:39,470 --> 00:36:41,530 you